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Old 12-17-2006, 10:12 AM   Topic Starter
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Hindsight 20/20: Was it a mistake to bench Huard?

I know. I know. Huard had a bad game at Miami. But in 2001 Brady came off a so-so game vs St.Louis as the Patriots fell to 5-5, but Belichick saw the whole picture, that the Patriots had turned around a 0-2 start by going 5-3 under Brady.

there are good arguments for either side, but i think, since Green has only really had one good game, and last week he stunk to high heaven, its a valid question. Would Huard have had 2 picks, a fumble, and a bunch of sacks?

He wasnt the passer Green is, but he managed the game better and helped the defense.

Just throwing it out there...
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Old 12-17-2006, 10:19 AM   #2
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I dont think so. I think if anything, the rest of the team picked up their play with Damon at the helm. When Trent got back, maybe a lot of them let off the gas thinking he could just pick up the slack.

The one thing that Trent could take a pointer from Huard on though, is getting that ball outta there QUICK, when the backfoot hits on the 3rd or 5th step, wing it to the open guy. If nobodys open, then ground it in front of the nearest guy or sail it outta bounds.

Holding it too long is my only beef with Trent.
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Old 12-17-2006, 10:23 AM   #3
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No. Huard got lucky and faced a lot of bad defenses. He had hit his ceiling.

People are overreacting to one bad game. Brady had a bad game last week, too.
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Old 12-17-2006, 10:25 AM   #4
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There is a reason Trent has been a starting pro bowl QB and ranked in the top 3 for the last 5 years.

There is a reason that Huard has been a backup QB for 10+ years in the NFL.....

People on this board, I would say 99.9% didnt even want Huard on the roster openind day. Now question wether he should be a starter or not?

Fickle, very fickle...
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Old 12-17-2006, 10:52 PM   #5
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There is a reason Trent has been a starting pro bowl QB and ranked in the top 3 for the last 5 years.

There is a reason that Huard has been a backup QB for 10+ years in the NFL.....

People on this board, I would say 99.9% didnt even want Huard on the roster openind day. Now question wether he should be a starter or not?

Fickle, very fickle...
Now let me see , If my memory serves me tonight. Matt Hasselbeck was the bacup to Favre in Green Bay . Holmgren leaves for Seattle and takes Matt with him. Now Matt is the starting QB at Seattle . You see Huard can't become any kind of great QB when you don't play him , Green has been goin down fookin hill for the last 2 years , I bet you thought it was just fookin dandy when Elvis G. replaced Ghannon huh .
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The Kansas City Chiefs signed Gannon to a free-agent deal in the spring of 1995. For two years, the "journeyman" quarterback received limited action in his backup role.

That scenario changed in 1997, when Gannon earned nine starts and won six of them, including a five-game winning streak that enabled the Chiefs to claim an AFC West title.

He picked up 10 more starts in '98, passing for a then-career best 2,305 yards.

"I played quite a bit in my last two years in Kansas City, and finally catapulted myself into a position where teams were considering me as a starter," he recalled.

One person in particular was Raiders head coach John Gruden. Gruden, the Eagles' offensive coordinator from 1995 to 1997, was the only coach to give Gannon a chance to start full time in the NFL.

Inked by Oakland in 1999, Gannon tied hall-of-famer Ken Stabler for the team record for completions in a season (304) and threw for a career-best 3,840 yards.

It might be deja vu regarding Huard , I bet the raiders would take him in a minute , Peterson's a dumbass ................
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Old 12-17-2006, 10:58 PM   #6
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Now let me see , If my memory serves me tonight. Matt Hasselbeck was the bacup to Favre in Green Bay . Holmgren leaves for Seattle and takes Matt with him. Now Matt is the starting QB at Seattle . You see Huard can't become any kind of great QB when you don't play him , Green has been goin down fookin hill for the last 2 years , I bet you thought it was just fookin dandy when Elvis G. replaced Ghannon huh .
just some info from the past :
The Kansas City Chiefs signed Gannon to a free-agent deal in the spring of 1995. For two years, the "journeyman" quarterback received limited action in his backup role.

That scenario changed in 1997, when Gannon earned nine starts and won six of them, including a five-game winning streak that enabled the Chiefs to claim an AFC West title.

He picked up 10 more starts in '98, passing for a then-career best 2,305 yards.

"I played quite a bit in my last two years in Kansas City, and finally catapulted myself into a position where teams were considering me as a starter," he recalled.

One person in particular was Raiders head coach John Gruden. Gruden, the Eagles' offensive coordinator from 1995 to 1997, was the only coach to give Gannon a chance to start full time in the NFL.

Inked by Oakland in 1999, Gannon tied hall-of-famer Ken Stabler for the team record for completions in a season (304) and threw for a career-best 3,840 yards.

It might be deja vu regarding Huard , I bet the raiders would take him in a minute , Peterson's a dumbass ................
Nope supported Gannon.... Green is 5 times the QB Grbac was. Gannons should of continued to start.

Tell you what. Herm leaves and takes Huard with him in a couple of weeks then we will all be happy and Hootie will follow them to another message board.

How is that?
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Old 12-17-2006, 11:26 PM   #7
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Now let me see , If my memory serves me tonight. Matt Hasselbeck was the bacup to Favre in Green Bay . Holmgren leaves for Seattle and takes Matt with him. Now Matt is the starting QB at Seattle . You see Huard can't become any kind of great QB when you don't play him , Green has been goin down fookin hill for the last 2 years , I bet you thought it was just fookin dandy when Elvis G. replaced Ghannon huh .
just some info from the past :
The Kansas City Chiefs signed Gannon to a free-agent deal in the spring of 1995. For two years, the "journeyman" quarterback received limited action in his backup role.

That scenario changed in 1997, when Gannon earned nine starts and won six of them, including a five-game winning streak that enabled the Chiefs to claim an AFC West title.

He picked up 10 more starts in '98, passing for a then-career best 2,305 yards.

"I played quite a bit in my last two years in Kansas City, and finally catapulted myself into a position where teams were considering me as a starter," he recalled.

One person in particular was Raiders head coach John Gruden. Gruden, the Eagles' offensive coordinator from 1995 to 1997, was the only coach to give Gannon a chance to start full time in the NFL.

Inked by Oakland in 1999, Gannon tied hall-of-famer Ken Stabler for the team record for completions in a season (304) and threw for a career-best 3,840 yards.

It might be deja vu regarding Huard , I bet the raiders would take him in a minute , Peterson's a dumbass ................
Hasselbeck was only in his third season when Holmgren went to Seattle.
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Old 12-17-2006, 10:36 AM   #8
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No. He had a horrible game against Miami, did nothing against Denver and was part of that loss to the Steelers...

Seriously, as the OL this team goes. When we start playing musical Lineman, the QB looks worse, the running game doesn't look as smooth...
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Old 12-17-2006, 10:39 AM   #9
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we were winning with huard then green came in and has thrown 5 picks. You tell me.
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Old 12-17-2006, 10:42 AM   #10
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Yeah, because a horrid game plan and play calling had nothing to do with the Ravens loss.
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Old 12-17-2006, 10:54 AM   #11
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Old 12-17-2006, 11:08 AM   #12
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Hindsight 20/20: Was it a mistake to bench Huard?...

OH NO ! ARE YOU KIDDING ME, ARE YOU KIDDING ME ?YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME .... You Play To Win The Game, OK. You use your best players....... Herm Edwards.
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When you hand it off to the same RB on 1st and 2nd down the majority of the time it's not fair for any QB to have to face 3rd and 8 all the time.

The person to blame is the guy doing the play calling.
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Old 12-17-2006, 11:13 AM   #14
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It's assinine to compare Trent to Damon. Damon did an excellent job as a fill in QB while Trent was hurt. But he's no Pro Bowl QB like Trent. I blame most of Trent's struggles on the offensive coordinator. Everytime he finally gets to throw, the defenses know exactly where it's going.
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