RAND: Peterson knows his business

C-Mac · 03-06-2007, 08:21 AM

RAND: Peterson knows his business
Mar 06, 2007, 8:08:21 AM by Jonathan Rand - FAQ

You won’t find new Chiefs’ left tackle Damion McIntosh on the ESPN.com list of the top 30 players who were eligible for the start of free agency Friday. But you will find Carl Peterson, who signed him, on the Forbes.com list of the top 20 general managers in professional sports.

Both rankings are a tad surprising. McIntosh was a solid player in a free-agent market thin at one of the game’s most important positions. And criticism of Peterson in Kansas City probably reached an all-time peak late last season before the Chiefs became a surprise playoff participant.

So what does all this mean? It probably means there are too many lists flying around cyberspace. You’ve no doubt noticed that the popularity of lists – the best this or the worst that – has never been as high as in the Internet age. And sports lists are especially popular.

Forbes, a business magazine, usually wades into the world of sports to rank the most valuable franchises or most expensive tickets, snacks and souvenirs. Its ranking of general managers, though it seems unusual, does feature a key business angle.

Peterson is ranked number 16 among all general managers and sixth in the NFL. The rankings were made by comparing general managers to their predecessors with won-loss records and ability to keep payrolls nearest the league median. To avoid overrating GMs more interested in slashing payroll than winning, Forbes.com gives double weight to winning percentage.

The five highest-ranked NFL general managers are San Diego’s A.J. Smith, fourth; Carolina’s Marty Hurney, seventh; Chicago’s Jerry Angelo, eighth; Indianapolis’ Bill Polian, ninth, and Dallas’ Jerry Jones, 13th. All except Smith have led their franchises to a Super Bowl.

Each has overseen a major turnaround, as has Peterson. He took over a franchise that had just one playoff appearance in 17 years and was coming off consecutive four-win seasons. So his 173-126-1 record, a .578 winning percentage over 18 regular- and post-seasons, towers over the record of the Chiefs’ previous front office.

But then, of course, there’s the what-have-you-done-for-us lately factor. The Chiefs have just two playoff appearances, and no playoff wins, over the last nine seasons.

Peterson’s ultimate ranking among Chiefs’ fans won’t be defined by any list. It will be defined by the Chiefs’ performance over the next few years. At the very least, Peterson has proved himself a very solid and professional general manager who rejuvenated a doormat franchise and turned game day at Arrowhead Stadium into a happening again. His legacy beyond that depends upon how close the Chiefs can get to the Lombardi Trophy.

Peterson can’t afford to rest on his winning percentage or Forbes.com ranking, however, because he’s entering a critical point of his regime. He and coach Herm Edwards need to manage the tricky transition of making their roster younger, yet more talented, without letting the wheels come off for a season or two.

This is where McIntosh comes in. A seven-year veteran who’s about to turn 30, he’ll play an important role in the Chiefs’ transition. You can list him as the Chiefs’ starting left tackle, and that’s the only list he needs to be concerned about right now.

Frankie · 03-06-2007, 09:58 AM

Just thought I'd up this because, not surprisingly it has gotten no hits.

**BigRedChief** · 03-06-2007, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie

Just thought I'd up this because, not surprisingly it has gotten no hits.

A press release from the marketing department of the Chiefs doesn't get any play on the Planet? I'm shocked.

CoMoChief · 03-06-2007, 11:38 AM

After reading the very first couple sentences, I stopped reading because I knew it would piss me off.

CoMoChief · 03-06-2007, 11:39 AM

I saw the Forbes list, and there is NO WAY IN HELL that Carl Peterson is a better GM than Scott Pioli.

BigChiefFan · 03-06-2007, 11:42 AM

What an ass-kissing article.

Mr. Laz · 03-06-2007, 11:45 AM

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The rankings were made by comparing general managers to their predecessors with won-loss records and ability to keep payrolls nearest the league median.

yes ... when compared to Steadman and you put a priority on the financial aspect then Carl Peterson looks like a complete stud.

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Eric · 03-06-2007, 12:00 PM

It was by Forbes. They suck.

**Bowser** · 03-06-2007, 12:02 PM

I wonder if Rand felt really dirty after writing that spin.

Redrum_69 · 03-06-2007, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric

It was by Forbes. They suck.

Your mom works at Forbes?!?!?!

Crashride · 03-06-2007, 02:49 PM

Guys im a chiefs fan in tampa. Does carl pay people to cover up his decisions

**BigRedChief** · 03-06-2007, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Crashride

Guys im a chiefs fan in tampa. Does carl pay people to cover up his decisions

Yes, this is one and there are two other "reporters" Gretz and Rufus Dawes

FringeNC · 03-06-2007, 03:49 PM

How many quality playoff wins do we have since Carl has been here? Seriously, beating Houston to advance to the AFC Championship game is the only Chiefs' playoff game that I have fond memories of, and that's pathetic for the damn near 20 years he's been at his job. (The Pittsburgh victory before that -- a classic chokefest. We played like shit.)

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C-Mac Lurker Extraordinaire Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wally World Casino cash: $-1116301	RAND: Peterson knows his business RAND: Peterson knows his business Mar 06, 2007, 8:08:21 AM by Jonathan Rand - FAQ You won’t find new Chiefs’ left tackle Damion McIntosh on the ESPN.com list of the top 30 players who were eligible for the start of free agency Friday. But you will find Carl Peterson, who signed him, on the Forbes.com list of the top 20 general managers in professional sports. Both rankings are a tad surprising. McIntosh was a solid player in a free-agent market thin at one of the game’s most important positions. And criticism of Peterson in Kansas City probably reached an all-time peak late last season before the Chiefs became a surprise playoff participant. So what does all this mean? It probably means there are too many lists flying around cyberspace. You’ve no doubt noticed that the popularity of lists – the best this or the worst that – has never been as high as in the Internet age. And sports lists are especially popular. Forbes, a business magazine, usually wades into the world of sports to rank the most valuable franchises or most expensive tickets, snacks and souvenirs. Its ranking of general managers, though it seems unusual, does feature a key business angle. Peterson is ranked number 16 among all general managers and sixth in the NFL. The rankings were made by comparing general managers to their predecessors with won-loss records and ability to keep payrolls nearest the league median. To avoid overrating GMs more interested in slashing payroll than winning, Forbes.com gives double weight to winning percentage. The five highest-ranked NFL general managers are San Diego’s A.J. Smith, fourth; Carolina’s Marty Hurney, seventh; Chicago’s Jerry Angelo, eighth; Indianapolis’ Bill Polian, ninth, and Dallas’ Jerry Jones, 13th. All except Smith have led their franchises to a Super Bowl. Each has overseen a major turnaround, as has Peterson. He took over a franchise that had just one playoff appearance in 17 years and was coming off consecutive four-win seasons. So his 173-126-1 record, a .578 winning percentage over 18 regular- and post-seasons, towers over the record of the Chiefs’ previous front office. But then, of course, there’s the what-have-you-done-for-us lately factor. The Chiefs have just two playoff appearances, and no playoff wins, over the last nine seasons. Peterson’s ultimate ranking among Chiefs’ fans won’t be defined by any list. It will be defined by the Chiefs’ performance over the next few years. At the very least, Peterson has proved himself a very solid and professional general manager who rejuvenated a doormat franchise and turned game day at Arrowhead Stadium into a happening again. His legacy beyond that depends upon how close the Chiefs can get to the Lombardi Trophy. Peterson can’t afford to rest on his winning percentage or Forbes.com ranking, however, because he’s entering a critical point of his regime. He and coach Herm Edwards need to manage the tricky transition of making their roster younger, yet more talented, without letting the wheels come off for a season or two. This is where McIntosh comes in. A seven-year veteran who’s about to turn 30, he’ll play an important role in the Chiefs’ transition. You can list him as the Chiefs’ starting left tackle, and that’s the only list he needs to be concerned about right now.
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