Is it better not to take Miami's 6th?

[CrazyHorse]

If we cut Green do we get a compensatory pick.

Not sure on the requirements for compensatory picks. But if so, it seems like we are better off to keep him than let him go for a 6th.

[htismaqe]

I would imagine the league would consider him a backup up at this point, so we wouldn't get a decent pick for him.

[Valiant]

i think we would get a better compensation pick then what Miami could offer us... Should be a 4-5th rounder, hopefully a 3rd but it will never happen since he got hurt last year...

[blueballs]

The Dolphins are laughing stock

[Mecca]

Compensation would have to do with how much money he got and how he played......I doubt we'd get much.

[Mile High Mania]

Carl was doing a deal with one of the ESPN guys and said Trent was the starter if the season started tomorrow... I think he's somewhat freaked about not being able to trade Trent.

[LTforMVP]

You dont get compensation picks for players that are released or traded.

They are only given out for unrestrictred free agents that sign with another team.

[Priestgets30TDs]

Wouldn't it be restricted free agents?

Originally Posted by Priestgets30TDs

Wouldn't it be restricted free agents?

No, that's something completely different. If another team offers a contract to one of your RFA's that you elect not to match you get whatever you spent on him in the draft unless you tender him at a higher value.

[Deberg_1990]

Wont we have to pay him like 7 mil if we keep him past June 1st?? No way we pay him that.

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Wont we have to pay him like 7 mil if we keep him past June 1st?? No way we pay him that.

No. If he's on the active roster for the season opener his salary becomes guaranteed.

[buddha]

It is Miami who is over a barrell in this situation, not KC. Giving up Green, even at this point in his career, for a 6th round pick is ludicrous. Why bother? We can afford to wait things out because Miami is in a world of hurt right now at QB. They have Cleo Lemmons, the new BYU QB, and the big, fat stiff Culpepper (who still hasn't rehabbed himself after TWO years!).

We should jack the asking price up to a third rounder starting tomorrow morning and never look back.

Screw Miami.

[bigbucks24]

Originally Posted by buddha

It is Miami who is over a barrell in this situation, not KC. Giving up Green, even at this point in his career, for a 6th round pick is ludicrous. Why bother? We can afford to wait things out because Miami is in a world of hurt right now at QB. They have Cleo Lemmons, the new BYU QB, and the big, fat stiff Culpepper (who still hasn't rehabbed himself after TWO years!).

We should jack the asking price up to a third rounder starting tomorrow morning and never look back.

Screw Miami.

How about this for a scenerio. You have a car. It's not a good car, but it's a car. You go down to the dealer for a new car (well, it's not really new. It's actually pretty old. And the engine might be blown, you aren't sure).
He says, "Buy this car for $10,000."
You say "I won't pay you more than $6,000."
The dealer says, "OK. How about $8,000."
You say, "No. I will only pay $6,000."
The dealer says, "You have to have this car. You have no choice. The last customer paid $8,000 so $8,000 is a fair price. Pay it or you don't get the car."
You say, "I won't pay more than $6,000."
The dealer says, "Fine. The new price is $9,000."

Now, you don't get the car and the dealer doesn't get the sale. But did it do any good at all to jack the price up at the end? In the end, no one goes away happy. The dealer is still sitting with an old car with a possible blown engine and the customer is stilll without a good car.

It's probably best that you keep your QB with the health issues and possible attitude issues and we keep our poor QB's. Are we making a playoff run? Not a chance. Then again, not a chance with Trent (and LJ and Tony G. for that matter). Could we go 4-12 this year with Cleo and Beck as our starters? Probably a pretty good chance of it. Would we have gone any better than 6-10 or 7-9 with Trent. Doubt it. I can understand Carl's position and Randy's position. I guess we both move on.

[stlchiefs]

Originally Posted by bigbucks24

How about this for a scenerio. You have a car. It's not a good car, but it's a car. You go down to the dealer for a new car (well, it's not really new. It's actually pretty old. And the engine might be blown, you aren't sure).
He says, "Buy this car for $10,000."
You say "I won't pay you more than $6,000."
The dealer says, "OK. How about $8,000."
You say, "No. I will only pay $6,000."
The dealer says, "You have to have this car. You have no choice. The last customer paid $8,000 so $8,000 is a fair price. Pay it or you don't get the car."
You say, "I won't pay more than $6,000."
The dealer says, "Fine. The new price is $9,000."

Now, you don't get the car and the dealer doesn't get the sale. But did it do any good at all to jack the price up at the end? In the end, no one goes away happy. The dealer is still sitting with an old car with a possible blown engine and the customer is stilll without a good car.

It's probably best that you keep your QB with the health issues and possible attitude issues and we keep our poor QB's. Are we making a playoff run? Not a chance. Then again, not a chance with Trent (and LJ and Tony G. for that matter). Could we go 4-12 this year with Cleo and Beck as our starters? Probably a pretty good chance of it. Would we have gone any better than 6-10 or 7-9 with Trent. Doubt it. I can understand Carl's position and Randy's position. I guess we both move on.

Factors you left out:
1. You've never tried to start the car you have. You don't even know if it'll run.
2. There are no other dealers from which to buy a car. You want a car that will start, you buy from the one dealer in town with a car to sell.

Now if you are willing to take the car you have and risk having to push it around if it doesn't start, I'm sure the dealer is willing to sit on his car and eat the small loss he may take.

[bigbucks24]

Originally Posted by stlchiefs

Factors you left out:
1. You've never tried to start the car you have. You don't even know if it'll run.
2. There are no other dealers from which to buy a car. You want a car that will start, you buy from the one dealer in town with a car to sell.

Now if you are willing to take the car you have and risk having to push it around if it doesn't start, I'm sure the dealer is willing to sit on his car and eat the small loss he may take.

Well, we know it will run.....we just don't know how well. Well enough to win any races? That remains to be seen. Both teams had reasons to make the trade....but neither team was desparate. Both teams had the ability to not make the deal. That's where the standoff was. We may still get a deal done, for a pick next year. But I doubt it will be a 3rd like some people on here are wanting.