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Old 09-24-2007, 09:14 AM   Topic Starter
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Wins/Losses Broken Down By Arena League vs Real NFL Football
So if we assume Herm is correct that scoring 21+ points is Arena League football, let's examine how the Arena League teams already in the NFL did vs. how the "real" NFL teams (sub-21 points) did.

Arena League teams were 14-7 this weekend. You were 2x more likely to win rather than lose if you scored 21 or more points.

"Real" NFL teams were 1-8. The Chiefs were the only team this Sunday to win scoring under 21 points.

Booo, points. Hooray "real" football!

***** Ongoing Listing as Wins-Losses (Winning %) *****
Week 1:
AFL : 8-2 (80%)
NFL : 8-14 (36%)

Week 2:
AFL : 10-2 (83%)
NFL : 6-14 (30%)

Week 3:
AFL : 14-7 (67%)
NFL : 1-8 (11%)

Week 4:
AFL : 11-1 (92%)
NFL : 3-13 (19%)
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Old 09-24-2007, 09:16 AM   #2
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Old 09-24-2007, 10:10 AM   #3
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You should keep this going for each week. It's a lot of work, but I know you can do it.
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Old 09-24-2007, 10:22 AM   #4
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You should keep this going for each week. It's a lot of work, but I know you can do it.
I'll try and keep the thread starter updated.

So far I'm noticing a trend...
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Old 09-24-2007, 10:26 AM   #5
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Old 09-24-2007, 10:27 AM   #6
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The real question is how many of the "arena teams" that won, would have still won had they scored 21 or less points.
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Old 09-24-2007, 10:29 AM   #7
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The real question is how many of the "arena teams" that won, would have still won had they scored 21 or less points.
Do your own freaking research to prove your own worthless point. I already did mine.
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Old 09-24-2007, 10:34 AM   #8
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Do your own freaking research to prove your own worthless point. I already did mine.
It's not that important to me, since Herm's comment made in jest didn't irritate me.

Is a 31-21 win mean a team is better than another team that wins 20-10? Is a 34-31 win worth more than winning 13-10?

It doesn't matter how many points you score as long as it's more than the other team.
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It's not that important to me, since Herm's comment made in jest didn't irritate me.

Is a 31-21 win mean a team is better than another team that wins 20-10? Is a 34-31 win worth more than winning 13-10?

It doesn't matter how many points you score as long as it's more than the other team.
How many NFL teams do you expect to hold under 17? Not very many. You take that into the playoffs and the answer is going to be precious damned few. This style doesn't project well.

In the last 15 Super Bowls 9 of the 30 teams scored under 21. Only one of them hoisted the Lombardi, NE in '02.
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Is a 34-31 win worth more than winning 13-10?
Depends how much your offense struggles to get that 13 points.
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Old 09-24-2007, 10:33 AM   #11
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The real question is how many of the "arena teams" that won, would have still won had they scored 21 or less points.
This week there were 7 winners who wouldn't have won if they'd scored under 21.
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Old 09-24-2007, 01:19 PM   #12
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This week there were 7 winners who wouldn't have won if they'd scored under 21.
Yeah, but then the team that beat them would have won scoring over 21 and there'd be 7 winners who'd not have won if they scored under 21. Think about it. Just sayin...
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Old 09-24-2007, 01:36 PM   #13
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The real question is how many of the "arena teams" that won, would have still won had they scored 21 or less points.
You can't just take Jacksonville's 23-14 win over Denver and say the Jaguars could have won 15-14. A different score at pretty much any point of the game could completely change the strategy.

The point is that the teams that get a lead and continue to score... you know, play to win the game... are the teams that are more likely to win. When you have so many good athletes on the field at any given time, you can't just hang in the game for 3 quarters and win it at the end. Well, maybe against the Vikings at home
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Old 09-24-2007, 10:27 AM   #14
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I'm not defending Hermie, but I don't have a problem not scoring a lot of points as long as you score more than the other guys when the clock reads 00:00.
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I'm not defending Hermie, but I don't have a problem not scoring a lot of points as long as you score more than the other guys when the clock reads 00:00.
I agree with that, when we lose its a whole different story.
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