Gretz takes a shot at Whitlock and Jack Harry

Hammock Parties · 10-24-2007, 05:12 PM

Pathetic.

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2007/10...stly_response/

GRETZ: A Not-So Priestly Response
Oct 24, 2007, 2:28:17 AM by Bob Gretz - FAQ

I must admit it was really enjoyable watching Priest Holmes run the football last Sunday in Oakland.

Not that it wasn’t always fun to see Priest tote the pig in his first incarnation with the Chiefs offense; for a span of about three years he was one of the most powerful offensive forces in the game and any run or catch could turn into the play of the game.

And, while his five touches totaled just three yards by the end of the game, it was just so much fun to see him back on the field and defying the pundits and those who said it couldn’t be done, wouldn’t be done and shouldn’t be done.

Yes, I loved it because Priest shoved it right up the nose of some media types in this town. Specifically, he made a 4XL sports columnist and a diminutive TV sportscaster look awful stupid, not that they need much help with that on most days.

The columnist made fun of everything about Holmes return to the team back in training camp, calling it a joke, a circus, a money-grab, a negotiating ploy and on and on. Not once did he consider that maybe it was something else, that maybe it was a man trying to return to what he does best.

The tiny TV guy had two years earlier “retired” Holmes. Just days after Shawne Merriman had knocked Holmes out with a vicious hit, this joker went on the air and told his tiny audience that the Chiefs running back was retiring.

There were no maybes, no thinking about it, no “he’s considering his options.” He flat out announced his retirement, that he would never play again.

When was the last time somebody on the TV news was that wrong? OK, besides the weather folks, when was the last time a local sportscaster so screwed up a story? Then this same yakker has pontificated for the last two years that the only reason Holmes had not officially retired was because if he did, Carl Peterson would go after his signing bonus. Of course, that was never something that the Peterson or the Chiefs ever considered or would have done, but that fact didn’t matter to this rumor monger.

That’s why watching Priest was so much fun. Oh how it had to burn on Sunday afternoon when these two had to watch Holmes not only play again, but contribute to a Chiefs victory.

Some would say “Gretz, why make it so personal with these guys?” My answer is simple. I didn’t make it personal; they did. If you want to know why the public holds people in the media in the same level of contempt as politicians and streetwalkers, this is the perfect example.

Neither one of these men knew Priest Holmes, yet they were arrogant enough to put themselves into his head and his heart and establish his future and his motives with nary a shred of evidence.

They and their ilk seek the negative side of every story. Somebody is always lying, somebody is always trying to get over on somebody else, these people are withholding the truth, those folks are running a scam. Generally, somebody with that type of outlook on life is always lying themselves, always trying to take advantage of something or someone and always dealing in the shadows. They project their seedy, unhappy view of life onto everyone they write and speak about. They think “this is how I would react’ so that must be how he’s reacting. It tells us more about them than it does about their subjects.

How much Priest plays and what he ultimately brings to the 2007 Chiefs we will see over the next two months. What happened last Sunday in Oakland might be as good as it gets. If so, that would be OK,

Priest Holmes has too much class to gloat about making these jokers look bad. I don’t share that same level of class. I will gloat for him.

Direckshun · 10-24-2007, 05:17 PM

In their defense (and, let's face it, primarily in mine as well), Priest was walking like a duck and talking like a duck for two stinkin' years. It wasn't that crazy to assume he was a duck.

**the Talking Can** · 10-24-2007, 05:17 PM

ILK! I SAY ILK!

Hammock Parties · 10-24-2007, 05:20 PM

Seriously...taking a shot at Whitlock for his opinions is one thing, but the 4XL comment? Gretz ain't exactly slim.

**the Talking Can** · 10-24-2007, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE

Seriously...taking a shot at Whitlock for his opinions is one thing, but the 4XL comment? Gretz ain't exactly slim.

that'd be like you calling someone a virgin....

Direckshun · 10-24-2007, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

that'd be like you calling someone a virgin....

that'd be like you calling someone a dick...

**the Talking Can** · 10-24-2007, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

that'd be like you calling someone a dick...

well played, exactly

stevieray · 10-24-2007, 05:38 PM

Bob Gretz is just jealous of my hair/Mecca

TEX · 10-24-2007, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GOATSE

Seriously...taking a shot at Whitlock for his opinions is one thing, but the 4XL comment? Gretz ain't exactly slim.

It's exactly like when you call someone stupid.

chiefqueen · 10-25-2007, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE

Seriously...taking a shot at Whitlock for his opinions is one thing, but the 4XL comment? Gretz ain't exactly slim.

I see him walking around from my seat @ Arrowhead, he trimmed down alot, actually looks almost fit.

shaneo69 · 10-25-2007, 01:06 PM

Bernie Miklasz (St. Louis Post-Dispatch) comments on Gretz' name-calling:

"If that's a man's size, that's his size.

Now, if someone wants to call me (or Whitlock) fat, they surely can do so if it makes them feel better about themselves.

But it's been done many times, and so I would advise that they find some fresh material, come up with something original.

Or better yet -- win the debate on intellect, not insults.

That was written by Bob Gretz....
He's been in a beef with Big Sexy for years....
Whit has ripped him in print.

I've known Bob a long time and like him -- he's on the Pro Football Hall of Fame selection committee -- but he ain't exactly Brad Pitt, if you know what I mean. I don't know why he needs to be taking shots at a columnist's weight, or a sportscaster's lack of height."

--B

http://www.stltoday.com/forums/viewt...046716#5046716

jettio · 10-24-2007, 05:25 PM

If Gretz is going to call out Whitlock he should discuss Priest's Dueling Baby Mamas Drama, since Whitlock had some fun with that.

Hootie · 10-24-2007, 05:40 PM

He called him 4XL not making fun of his weight, but so everyone knew who he was talking about without mentioning his name.

**HemiEd** · 10-24-2007, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

He called him 4XL not making fun of his weight, but so everyone knew who he was talking about without mentioning his name.

Yep, no legal material that way.

CoMoChief · 10-24-2007, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GRETZ

Some would say “Gretz, why make it so personal with these guys?” My answer is simple. I didn’t make it personal; they did. If you want to know why the public holds people in the media in the same level of contempt as politicians and streetwalkers, this is the perfect example.

But Teacher....HE STARTED IT!!!!!!!

They made it personal yet you continue to write these reeruned articles while being Carl Peterson's puppet.

4XL? Wanna try looking in the mirror first Blob before you go an attack someone's weight. You aren't exactly a fitness model there bucko.

10-24-2007, 05:12 PM	Topic Starter
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $4380478	Gretz takes a shot at Whitlock and Jack Harry Pathetic. http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2007/10...stly_response/ GRETZ: A Not-So Priestly Response Oct 24, 2007, 2:28:17 AM by Bob Gretz - FAQ I must admit it was really enjoyable watching Priest Holmes run the football last Sunday in Oakland. Not that it wasn’t always fun to see Priest tote the pig in his first incarnation with the Chiefs offense; for a span of about three years he was one of the most powerful offensive forces in the game and any run or catch could turn into the play of the game. And, while his five touches totaled just three yards by the end of the game, it was just so much fun to see him back on the field and defying the pundits and those who said it couldn’t be done, wouldn’t be done and shouldn’t be done. Yes, I loved it because Priest shoved it right up the nose of some media types in this town. Specifically, he made a 4XL sports columnist and a diminutive TV sportscaster look awful stupid, not that they need much help with that on most days. The columnist made fun of everything about Holmes return to the team back in training camp, calling it a joke, a circus, a money-grab, a negotiating ploy and on and on. Not once did he consider that maybe it was something else, that maybe it was a man trying to return to what he does best. The tiny TV guy had two years earlier “retired” Holmes. Just days after Shawne Merriman had knocked Holmes out with a vicious hit, this joker went on the air and told his tiny audience that the Chiefs running back was retiring. There were no maybes, no thinking about it, no “he’s considering his options.” He flat out announced his retirement, that he would never play again. When was the last time somebody on the TV news was that wrong? OK, besides the weather folks, when was the last time a local sportscaster so screwed up a story? Then this same yakker has pontificated for the last two years that the only reason Holmes had not officially retired was because if he did, Carl Peterson would go after his signing bonus. Of course, that was never something that the Peterson or the Chiefs ever considered or would have done, but that fact didn’t matter to this rumor monger. That’s why watching Priest was so much fun. Oh how it had to burn on Sunday afternoon when these two had to watch Holmes not only play again, but contribute to a Chiefs victory. Some would say “Gretz, why make it so personal with these guys?” My answer is simple. I didn’t make it personal; they did. If you want to know why the public holds people in the media in the same level of contempt as politicians and streetwalkers, this is the perfect example. Neither one of these men knew Priest Holmes, yet they were arrogant enough to put themselves into his head and his heart and establish his future and his motives with nary a shred of evidence. They and their ilk seek the negative side of every story. Somebody is always lying, somebody is always trying to get over on somebody else, these people are withholding the truth, those folks are running a scam. Generally, somebody with that type of outlook on life is always lying themselves, always trying to take advantage of something or someone and always dealing in the shadows. They project their seedy, unhappy view of life onto everyone they write and speak about. They think “this is how I would react’ so that must be how he’s reacting. It tells us more about them than it does about their subjects. How much Priest plays and what he ultimately brings to the 2007 Chiefs we will see over the next two months. What happened last Sunday in Oakland might be as good as it gets. If so, that would be OK, Priest Holmes has too much class to gloat about making these jokers look bad. I don’t share that same level of class. I will gloat for him.
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shaneo69 Smug Weasel Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Bleachers at Busch Casino cash: $10004900	Bernie Miklasz (St. Louis Post-Dispatch) comments on Gretz' name-calling: "If that's a man's size, that's his size. Now, if someone wants to call me (or Whitlock) fat, they surely can do so if it makes them feel better about themselves. But it's been done many times, and so I would advise that they find some fresh material, come up with something original. Or better yet -- win the debate on intellect, not insults. That was written by Bob Gretz.... He's been in a beef with Big Sexy for years.... Whit has ripped him in print. I've known Bob a long time and like him -- he's on the Pro Football Hall of Fame selection committee -- but he ain't exactly Brad Pitt, if you know what I mean. I don't know why he needs to be taking shots at a columnist's weight, or a sportscaster's lack of height." --B http://www.stltoday.com/forums/viewt...046716#5046716 __________________ "I like Chiefs president Carl Peterson. I respect his business savvy. I envy his management skills and his penchant never to be driven by the whims of popularity. I admire his willingness to take responsibility for decisions that don’t work out the way he would have wanted." - Rufus, from KCChiefs.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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