Is there ANY Scenario Where Solari Stays in 2008?

[KCJohnny]

Usually a bottom feeder performance means a demotion/firing.
Driving the most powerful O in the league into the bottom of the basement should mean a dismissal - even during the season.

The only scenario I can foresee that includes Solari involves Herm admitting that He is the reason our "arena football" offense died the death. Herm will either have to take responsibility for that putrid offense or throw Solari under the bus.

I am hoping Norv gets canned in SD and we get him to build a real Coryell offense again.

[KurtCobain]

We ain't getting Norv, not even as a shoe-shiner.

Who has Gregg Knapp?

[Hoover]

Yes, but is the Oline coach

I don't really care if its the Coryell offense or not.

I want a guy who can quickly develope a relationship with our young QB. Also Brodie, TG, and Bowe need to spend the offseason working togehter

[Bowser]

Sure there is. Herm and/or Carl come out and admit just how pathetic our O-Line is, and make the statement that NO offensive coordinator could have made anything from and offense anchored by that line. Or, they don't say it publicly but know full well just what the problem is, and give him the pass. OR, Herm is Vermeil-esque with his loyalty, and keeps Solari around a year or two too long, ala Greg Robinson.

Personally, I'd like to see Solari back to coaching the O-Line exclusively, and move Charlie Joiner up to coordinator. But like I said, Joiner wouldn't be any better with the turds we're lining up on the line.

[KCJohnny]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Sure there is. Herm and/or Carl come out and admit just how pathetic our O-Line is, and make the statement that NO offensive coordinator could have made anything from and offense anchored by that line. Or, they don't say it publicly but know full well just what the problem is, and give him the pass. OR, Herm is Vermeil-esque with his loyalty, and keeps Solari around a year or two too long, ala Greg Robinson.

Personally, I'd like to see Solari back to coaching the O-Line exclusively, and move Charlie Joiner up to coordinator. But like I said, Joiner wouldn't be any better with the turds we're lining up on the line.

Joiner certainly can't do any worse. At least he was a player/coach at a skill position. Solari was an OL coach.

I see somebody taking the hit. You can't finish 31st in the NFL in total offense and keep your job, can you?

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by KCJohnny

Joiner certainly can't do any worse. At least he was a player/coach at a skill position. Solari was an OL coach.

I see somebody taking the hit. You can't finish 31st in the NFL in total offense and keep your job, can you?

I think so, especially if playing not to lose is what your head coach is in favor of, and asking the coordinator to do.

[pikesome]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Sure there is. Herm and/or Carl come out and admit just how pathetic our O-Line is, and make the statement that NO offensive coordinator could have made anything from and offense anchored by that line. Or, they don't say it publicly but know full well just what the problem is, and give him the pass. OR, Herm is Vermeil-esque with his loyalty, and keeps Solari around a year or two too long, ala Greg Robinson.

Here it is. I don't see the Chiefs making many changes the next 2 years. Herm's going to get a pass because 1. It's his 2nd year 2. We went to the playoffs his first 3. Drafting has been successful by any measure 4. Carl will want to keep him. Carl stays because his contract has 2 more years, short of an egregious problem Hunt leaves him alone till he retires. Solari probably stays because the team will finish decent-ish and most of our problems can be blamed on Oline, QB and RB issues. Short of Herm or Carl going early (which ain't going to happen) I don't see a shake up in the coaching staff. If the team tanks the rest of the season Solari is the most likely to go but I'm guessing the team's going to play well enough to keep him here.

[KCJohnny]

Originally Posted by pikesome

Here it is. I don't see the Chiefs making many changes the next 2 years. Herm's going to get a pass because 1. It's his 2nd year 2. We went to the playoffs his first 3. Drafting has been successful by any measure 4. Carl will want to keep him. Carl stays because his contract has 2 more years, short of an egregious problem Hunt leaves him alone till he retires. Solari probably stays because the team will finish decent-ish and most of our problems can be blamed on Oline, QB and RB issues. Short of Herm or Carl going early (which ain't going to happen) I don't see a shake up in the coaching staff. If the team tanks the rest of the season Solari is the most likely to go but I'm guessing the team's going to play well enough to keep him here.

I read on the Dick Curl thread that he as assistant HC has veto power over Solari's play calling. Thoughts?

Let's get one thing straight. What we saw yesterday was the game plan scripted for young Brodie to not get humiliated in his first start against the defending SB champs. They ran about 10 different plays that they probably meticulously prepared for in practice.

I wonder if the whole playbook is open (both pages, front and back ) and Solari tries to game plan to this offense's actual strengths (saw faint glipses of that yesterday) whether we may arrive at the arena league like 20 ppg? I mean, is the potential there or not? Is it the play calling or do we just stink?

[pikesome]

Originally Posted by KCJohnny

I read on the Dick Curl thread that he as assistant HC has veto power over Solari's play calling. Thoughts?

I don't know about this. I hope it's not true but if it is it means that Solari stays or DC takes over, I don't see any other outcome. And DC calling plays scares me, Solari isn't completely incompetent and, I think, is improving.

Let's get one thing straight. What we saw yesterday was the game plan scripted for young Brodie to not get humiliated in his first start against the defending SB champs. They ran about 10 different plays that they probably meticulously prepared for in practice.

I agree 110%. The play calling looked to be tailored for what they thought would work and Croyle's inexperience. The lack of adjustment seemed to be the most glaring problem. The Colts adjusted and we didn't, that might be lack of faith (or ability) in Brodie or chickenshitedness, I don't know.

I wonder if the whole playbook is open (both pages, front and back ) and Solari tries to game plan to this offense's actual strengths (saw faint glipses of that yesterday) whether we may arrive at the arena league like 20 ppg? I mean, is the potential there or not? Is it the play calling or do we just stink?

I think it is. Solari is getting better but he's got a conservative HC (and GM probably), a lack of talent on the Oline, a lack of experience at QB and a good D. The smart (or scaredy, depending on how you look at it) gameplan is more conservative, try to finish the season without embarrassment and getting experience for the younger guys. Then work next year fixing the problems.

I just wish we'd open it up a bit more, it's like not talking to a girl because she's not going to respond so you just give up and go home to beat one out. That's the safe plan.

[KCJohnny]

Originally Posted by pikesome

I don't know about this. I hope it's not true but if it is it means that Solari stays or DC takes over, I don't see any other outcome. And DC calling plays scares me, Solari isn't completely incompetent and, I think, is improving.

I agree 110%. The play calling looked to be tailored for what they thought would work and Croyle's inexperience. The lack of adjustment seemed to be the most glaring problem. The Colts adjusted and we didn't, that might be lack of faith (or ability) in Brodie or chickenshitedness, I don't know.

I think it is. Solari is getting better but he's got a conservative HC (and GM probably), a lack of talent on the Oline, a lack of experience at QB and a good D. The smart (or scaredy, depending on how you look at it) gameplan is more conservative, try to finish the season without embarrassment and getting experience for the younger guys. Then work next year fixing the problems.

I just wish we'd open it up a bit more, it's like not talking to a girl because she's not going to respond so you just give up and go home to beat one out. That's the safe plan.

I though those were thoughtful comments until your last allegory.

My gut tells me you are right - it's more Herm and his BucBall/NO Areana League attitude that is holding the team back. Perhaps Solari can do better next year with a new OLT, a new RG and moving MacIntosh to ORT?

[Dave Lane]

I fully expect Herm to throw Solari under the bus if there is ANY pressure on him to resign. However is they manage to eke out a 8-8 season then Herm will keep him so he has a pass / out for next season

Dave

[Wile_E_Coyote]

Clark has has a year to grieve his father's passing & let things be. I wonder if now he steps in & becomes more hands on

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by Wile_E_Coyote

Clark has has a year to grieve his father's passing & let things be. I wonder if now he steps in & becomes more hands on

That would most likely be a negative considering Clark Hunt is a gutless piece of garbage who is content with 7-9/8-8 seasons.

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

That would most likely be a negative considering Clark Hunt is a gutless piece of garbage who is content with 7-9/8-8 seasons.

Really when did that start?

[Brock]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

That would most likely be a negative considering Clark Hunt is a gutless piece of garbage who is content with 7-9/8-8 seasons.

Yeah, that much is obvious after a couple of years. If he's a gutless piece of garbage, what does that make Lamar?