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Old 01-13-2008, 01:54 PM   Topic Starter
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Interesting blurb about Vermeil...
from the St. Louis Post-Dispatch...

"To this day, Vermeil still grimaces at the thought of his summit (offseason) meetings with Rams brass. The meeting after a 4-12 finish in 1998 has taken on near-legendary proportions. As the story goes, Vermeil wanted Mike White as his offensive coordinator and Jeff Hostetler as his quarterback. He got Mike Martz and Trent Green instead, with the help of some arm-twisting from team management."

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/spo...5?OpenDocument


Meanwhile, Carl continues to let his head coaches hire who they want...
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Old 01-13-2008, 02:11 PM   #2
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Jeff Hostetler??

He'd been in pr0n for 4 years by the time that season rolled around.
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Old 01-13-2008, 02:28 PM   #3
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Jeff Hostetler??

He'd been in pr0n for 4 years by the time that season rolled around.


That's why he was supporting the pr0n mustache.
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Old 01-13-2008, 02:23 PM   #4
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The problem with the Chiefs is that Carl let DV pick the players. Shit Herm is a dream in terms of drafting players.
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Old 01-13-2008, 07:28 PM   #5
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Well...At least Vermeil got to draft Lawrence Phillips like he wanted...so...
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Old 01-13-2008, 07:56 PM   #6
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DV brought in:
willie roaf
dante hall
priest holmes
casey wiegmann
eddie kennison
Jared allen

the problem is that he trusted his Defensive coordinators (GRob and Gun) to be able to pick out defensive players.
backups dont get many snaps..specially when your changing to a new scheme (martz installed the air coryell). Bellichick had Brady backing up bledsoe. Jax had david garrard on the bench, and Baltimore had Anderson (who lit it up with cleveland). big deal. if the player is truly superior they will shine when its their time.
Gun drafted Hall
Peterson went after and signed Roaf, and jointly with DV went after Priest for a backup to Tony Richardson.
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Old 01-13-2008, 09:15 PM   #7
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Hall always credits Vermiel for his success.
Yeah, everyone thought Priest was going to be just a 3rd down back...boy were they suprised.
Priest was a 3rd down back. That scheme that Al Saunders ran treated every down and distance like 3rd and long, hence the perfect storm.

Get off DV's back, guys. Without DV, there is no Vince Papale!
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Wow. Who knew Vermeil was so inept.
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Old 01-13-2008, 05:46 PM   #9
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Wow. Who knew Vermeil was so inept.
I did.
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I did.
Me too.

I wonder what people see when they say he's a HOF coach.

I see a record that's something like 10 games over .500 and a Lombardi Trophy that his offensive and defensive coordinators were 95% responsible for.
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Old 01-13-2008, 05:49 PM   #11
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Old 01-13-2008, 05:51 PM   #12
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Good God, is this true?
Yep.

I've mentioned it a couple of times here.

Martz was forced on him. With Martz came Trent.
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Old 01-13-2008, 05:57 PM   #13
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Yep.

I've mentioned it a couple of times here.

Martz was forced on him. With Martz came Trent.
If we know it then certainly Carl knew it but he hired him anyway knowing he was flawed regarding coaches and players. UNBELIEVEABLE.
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