Help for KC at Wide Receiver

Wilson8 · 02-26-2008, 11:14 PM

Just found this information and thought I would share with you.

There's been a lot written about the KC Chiefs needing to draft or sign a free agent wide receiver to compliment Dwayne Bowe. The following might shed some light on the free agent wide receivers.

I found this web site and it has some pretty interesting stats - http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/wr.php

I took the information from that Web site and then created a list for free agent wide receivers for this year.

Free Agent Wide Receivers Available for 2008
Justin Gage, TEN Titans, made 65% of catches on balls thrown to him. Ranked 28th with this footballoutsider.com evaluation.
Dante Stallworth, NE Patriots, made 62% of catches on balls thrown to him.
Ranked 31st.
Jabar Gaffney, NE Patriots, made 72% of catches on balls thrown to him. Ranked 41st.
Bernard Berrian, CHI Bears, made 55% of catches on balls thrown to him.
Ranked 53rd.
Andre Davis, HOU Texans, made 52% of catches on balls thrown to him. Ranked 63rd.
Bryant Johnson, ARZ Cardinals, made 52% of catches on balls thrown to him.
Ranked 71st.
D.J. Hackett, SEA Seahawks, made 68% of catches on balls thrown to him. Not ranked because only had 47 passes thrown to him.
Devery Henderson, NO Saints, made 48% of catches on balls thrown to him.
Not ranked because only had 42 passes thrown to him.
Samie Parker, KC Chiefs, made 62% of catches on balls thrown to him. Not ranked because only had 39 passes thrown to him.

Wilson8 · 02-26-2008, 11:15 PM

Also found it interesting that D. Bowe was ranked 14th for all NFL receivers, this is nice to see.

Halfcan · 02-26-2008, 11:16 PM

Bowe kicks ass!

Wilson8 · 02-26-2008, 11:17 PM

My first free agent choice after seeing this would be Jefferson City, Missouri’s Justin Gage. Since we are in the NFL Combine period and everyone is looking at sizes and speed; He is 6'4" 212 lbs. Runs the 40 in under 4.5 (was timed at 4.43). He was the Tennessee Titans leading receiver last year which means teams usually put one of their better cornerbacks against them. New England's Dante Stallworth and Jabar Gaffney would have faced weaker coverage because of double coverage on Randy Moss and also coverage on Wes Welker. Bryant Johnson faced weaker corners when Boldin and Fitzgerald were playing. Also the catch percentage can be distorted by the accuracy of the QB. Vince Young ranked 26th in QB rating. Tom Brady ranked 1st, Matt Hasselback ranked 8th, and Kurt Warner ranked 10th.

**RealSNR** · 02-27-2008, 09:15 AM

DJ Hackett would be an awesome "sleeper" like a Priest Holmes signing.

The only thing is the Chiefs need a legit #1 or #2 threat to go opposite Bowe. None of the guys on that list are a guarantee.

Wilson8 · 02-26-2008, 11:19 PM

I think all of the free agent wide receivers that I have listed are around 27 years old.

Wilson8 · 02-26-2008, 11:22 PM

I was originally thinking that Bryant Johnson or Andre Davis (ability to return kicks) would be good pickups. I still think Andre Davis could be good. He had two TDs on kick returns this last year. He was one of the top punt return men in the nation at Virginia Tech.

Jamie · 02-26-2008, 11:30 PM

Washington cut Brandon Lloyd, he might be someone to bring in on the cheap. He was good in San Fransisco and is still in his mid to late 20s.

Mecca · 02-26-2008, 11:30 PM

Bryant Johnson is by far the best guy of the WR's this year....

Chiefs_5627 · 02-26-2008, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Bryant Johnson is by far the best guy of the WR's this year....

Better than Bernard Berrian?

**HemiEd** · 02-27-2008, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs_5627

Better than Bernard Berrian?

What is it around here with all the Berrian love? He sucks, and the numbers listed above substanciate that.

Mecca · 02-27-2008, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

What is it around here with all the Berrian love? He sucks, and the numbers listed above substanciate that.

He runs fast, people get enamored with it. They don't notice the shitty routes or the bad hands.

**HemiEd** · 02-27-2008, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

He runs fast, people get enamored with it. They don't notice the shitty routes or the bad hands.

IMO he would be a downgrade from Samie Parker. Do you agree?

Chiefs_5627 · 02-27-2008, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

He runs fast, people get enamored with it. They don't notice the shitty routes or the bad hands.

WTF do you just make stuff up to make yourself seem knowledgeable?!?

Here's a recent scouting report:

Berrian has excellent deep speed, ball skills and red-zone ability. He is deceptive and gets on top of off defenders quickly. He has the extra gear to separate from tight man-to-man coverage. He is outstanding in the red zone. He runs good fade routes and attacks high balls, often out-jumping the defender. He has soft hands and impressive hand-eye coordination. He tracks and snatches balls, often without breaking stride. He continues to refine his game and improve his route running. He no longer is just a deep threat and decoy. He is excellent after the catch and dangerous on reverses. He has improved his hand use and has the quickness to avoid most jams at the line. He makes the effort as a blocker. But Berrian is lean and somewhat limited by his lack of bulk. He sometimes struggles against tough press coverage. He isn't a physical downfield blocker.

Chiefs_5627 · 02-27-2008, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

What is it around here with all the Berrian love? He sucks, and the numbers listed above substanciate that.

He sucks?

He's improved every year since being in the league, more than i can say for Bryant Johnson.

02-26-2008, 11:14 PM	Topic Starter
Wilson8 Veteran Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $2827557	Help for KC at Wide Receiver Just found this information and thought I would share with you. There's been a lot written about the KC Chiefs needing to draft or sign a free agent wide receiver to compliment Dwayne Bowe. The following might shed some light on the free agent wide receivers. I found this web site and it has some pretty interesting stats - http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/wr.php I took the information from that Web site and then created a list for free agent wide receivers for this year. Free Agent Wide Receivers Available for 2008 Justin Gage, TEN Titans, made 65% of catches on balls thrown to him. Ranked 28th with this footballoutsider.com evaluation. Dante Stallworth, NE Patriots, made 62% of catches on balls thrown to him. Ranked 31st. Jabar Gaffney, NE Patriots, made 72% of catches on balls thrown to him. Ranked 41st. Bernard Berrian, CHI Bears, made 55% of catches on balls thrown to him. Ranked 53rd. Andre Davis, HOU Texans, made 52% of catches on balls thrown to him. Ranked 63rd. Bryant Johnson, ARZ Cardinals, made 52% of catches on balls thrown to him. Ranked 71st. D.J. Hackett, SEA Seahawks, made 68% of catches on balls thrown to him. Not ranked because only had 47 passes thrown to him. Devery Henderson, NO Saints, made 48% of catches on balls thrown to him. Not ranked because only had 42 passes thrown to him. Samie Parker, KC Chiefs, made 62% of catches on balls thrown to him. Not ranked because only had 39 passes thrown to him.
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02-26-2008, 11:16 PM	#3
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02-26-2008, 11:17 PM	#4
Wilson8 Veteran Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $2827557	My first free agent choice after seeing this would be Jefferson City, Missouri’s Justin Gage. Since we are in the NFL Combine period and everyone is looking at sizes and speed; He is 6'4" 212 lbs. Runs the 40 in under 4.5 (was timed at 4.43). He was the Tennessee Titans leading receiver last year which means teams usually put one of their better cornerbacks against them. New England's Dante Stallworth and Jabar Gaffney would have faced weaker coverage because of double coverage on Randy Moss and also coverage on Wes Welker. Bryant Johnson faced weaker corners when Boldin and Fitzgerald were playing. Also the catch percentage can be distorted by the accuracy of the QB. Vince Young ranked 26th in QB rating. Tom Brady ranked 1st, Matt Hasselback ranked 8th, and Kurt Warner ranked 10th.
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02-27-2008, 09:15 AM	#5
RealSNR Special Teams ACE!!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Where the hell is SNR Casino cash: $-1524792	DJ Hackett would be an awesome "sleeper" like a Priest Holmes signing. The only thing is the Chiefs need a legit #1 or #2 threat to go opposite Bowe. None of the guys on that list are a guarantee.
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02-26-2008, 11:19 PM	#6
Wilson8 Veteran Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $2827557	I think all of the free agent wide receivers that I have listed are around 27 years old.
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Wilson8 Veteran Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $2827557	Also found it interesting that D. Bowe was ranked 14th for all NFL receivers, this is nice to see.
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02-26-2008, 11:22 PM	#7
Wilson8 Veteran Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $2827557	I was originally thinking that Bryant Johnson or Andre Davis (ability to return kicks) would be good pickups. I still think Andre Davis could be good. He had two TDs on kick returns this last year. He was one of the top punt return men in the nation at Virginia Tech.
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02-26-2008, 11:30 PM	#8
Jamie Veteran Join Date: Mar 2002 Casino cash: $-1000000	Washington cut Brandon Lloyd, he might be someone to bring in on the cheap. He was good in San Fransisco and is still in his mid to late 20s.
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-702950	Bryant Johnson is by far the best guy of the WR's this year....
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