Kris Wilson visiting Eagles today

Armory · 03-26-2008, 10:46 AM

http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/ne...story_id=15257

They are holding a press conference today, so in Eagles terms that usually means they are going to sign him.

I heard he was not productive at TE but did okay at HB/FB. Could you guys inform me on what type of player he is?

beach tribe · 03-26-2008, 10:49 AM

Don't let the secret weapon fall into the wrong hands!!

pikesome · 03-26-2008, 10:49 AM

It's a secret.

The Poz · 03-26-2008, 10:50 AM

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/...l-with-eagles/

Thought he had potential but buried behind Tony G. Didn't do much at all as a FB. Can be a threat catching on the screen but you've Westbrook to do that.

Armory · 03-26-2008, 11:03 AM

Thought he had potential but buried behind Tony G. Didn't do much at all as a FB. Can be a threat catching on the screen but you've Westbrook to do that.[/QUOTE]

The Eagles are screen happy. They run more screen plays than normal plays.

I'm guessing if he was a real untapped talent, then teams would have been after him once free agency started.

pikesome · 03-26-2008, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Armory

Thought he had potential but buried behind Tony G. Didn't do much at all as a FB. Can be a threat catching on the screen but you've Westbrook to do that.

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The Eagles are screen happy. They run more screen plays than normal plays.

I'm guessing if he was a real untapped talent, then teams would have been after him once free agency started.

Depends, it's easy to look at him a say "suck" but without Tony he might have got a shot to be a plain pass-catching TE. And he might have been good. The Chiefs just never had a spot for him in that role.

**HemiEd** · 03-26-2008, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by pikesome

Depends, it's easy to look at him a say "suck" but without Tony he might have got a shot to be a plain pass-catching TE. And he might have been good. The Chiefs just never had a spot for him in that role.

Exactly, in 2006 he caught everything thrown his way. He pulled a Trent Green, poorly thrown TD catch absolutely inches off of the ground. You guys have seen it many times when Trent would over throw the ball and have it go straight to the ground.
He had no opportunities his first year, very few his second. But in 2006 he was turning into an offensive weapon, a threat. He had one drop of a catchable pass his first three years.
He did everything he was given a chance to do, very well, until Herm moved him. He clearly did not become a good FB in one season. Just another Herm ****up, that will end up doing well on another team. He should have never been drafted by the Chiefs, that is where the biggest mistake was made.

BigRock · 03-26-2008, 02:32 PM

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Exactly, in 2006 he caught everything thrown his way. He pulled a Trent Green, poorly thrown TD catch absolutely inches off of the ground. You guys have seen it many times when Trent would over throw the ball and have it go straight to the ground.
He had no opportunities his first year, very few his second. But in 2006 he was turning into an offensive weapon, a threat. He had one drop of a catchable pass his first three years.
He did everything he was given a chance to do, very well, until Herm moved him. He clearly did not become a good FB in one season. Just another Herm ****up, that will end up doing well on another team.

I can't believe someone seriously used the phrase "offensive weapon" in a thread about Kris Wilson, but just to clear things up, Wilson didn't do anything in 2006 until Herm moved him to fullback. Prior to that he had 3 catches for 18 yards on the season.

His wonderous 2006 season that you recall so fondly only happened because Herm moved him. Then you turn around and trash Herm for doing it.

stlchiefs · 03-26-2008, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Just another Herm ****up, that will end up doing well on another team.

I'm not sure I'd blame this on Herm. Wilson was a Chief for 4 years and never did much, Herm has only been here 2. Even with Al Saunders the Offensive guru at the helm Wilson didn't really do anything worthy of a 2nd round pick. I'm not Herm disciple, but I find it hard to pin this on Herm when he didn't draft Wilson and 2 coaching staffs have not been able to get the guy to produce up to his "potential".

Deberg_1990 · 03-26-2008, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Armory

I heard he was not productive at TE but did okay at HB/FB. Could you guys inform me on what type of player he is?

Classic tweener. Which means hes OK at alot of things, but doesnt do any one thing particularly well.

His name gets people fired up around here beause he was a reach for us in the 2nd round.

pikesome · 03-26-2008, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Classic tweener. Which means hes OK at alot of things, but doesnt do any one thing particularly well.

His name gets people fired up around here beause he was a reach for us in the 2nd round.

Some get fired up because he didn't amount to crap here.

Although that might not be Wilson's fault, the Chiefs never did seem to have a clear vision on how to use him. Maybe that's because he can't do anything well enough or maybe not.

Frazod · 03-26-2008, 12:35 PM

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Some get fired up because he didn't amount to crap here.

Although that might not be Wilson's fault, the Chiefs never did seem to have a clear vision on how to use him. Maybe that's because he can't do anything well enough or maybe not.

To be fair, we haven't had a clear vision of how to do a goddamn thing here for years. Except destroying the defense, and then destroying the offense. Bigfoot might end up being a Pro Bowl FB/TE/who knows??? when not coached by reeruns.

Yaaaaaaay Carl, Dick and Herm.

**HemiEd** · 03-26-2008, 01:04 PM

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To be fair, we haven't had a clear vision of how to do a goddamn thing here for years. Except destroying the defense, and then destroying the offense. Bigfoot might end up being a Pro Bowl FB/TE/who knows??? when not coached by reeruns.

Yaaaaaaay Carl, Dick and Herm.

for sure.

stlchiefs · 03-26-2008, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Classic tweener. Which means hes OK at alot of things, but doesnt do any one thing particularly well.

His name gets people fired up around here beause he was a reach for us in the 2nd round.

and because he was over-hyped or under-utilized depending on if you're talking to fans or coaches. The guy was talked up to be an unstoppable weapon who couldn't be covered by LBs and was too big for CBs. In the end he never found a position or rhythm that enabled him to be worth much more than a Chiefs Planet conversation every few months.

**chasedude** · 03-26-2008, 10:58 AM

Two threads for Wilson, he isn't worth it.

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Armory Rookie Join Date: May 2006 Location: Philadelphia Casino cash: $10004900	Thought he had potential but buried behind Tony G. Didn't do much at all as a FB. Can be a threat catching on the screen but you've Westbrook to do that.[/QUOTE] The Eagles are screen happy. They run more screen plays than normal plays. I'm guessing if he was a real untapped talent, then teams would have been after him once free agency started.
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