Chiefs Is Darren McFadden a better back for the Chiefs than LJ?

Logical · 04-23-2008, 08:40 AM

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oaklandhater · 04-23-2008, 08:42 AM

better then LJ yes but not so much better that we should use our 5th pick on him.

Logical · 04-23-2008, 08:44 AM

I believe he will block on passing downs thus providing more value. I won't be suprised this time if Carl picks him.

oaklandhater · 04-23-2008, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Ill-Logical

I believe he will block on passing downs thus providing more value. I won't be suprised this time if Carl picks him.

if we pick RB with our 5th pick the CP will crash 1 second after the announcement.

Logical · 04-23-2008, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by oaklandhater

better then LJ yes but not so much better that we should use our 5th pick on him.

I agree with this but Gholston is the player likely to be left otherwise and he is not a fit on our defense.

nychief · 04-23-2008, 08:48 AM

no. LJ has lead the league in rushing and gone to pro bowls. McFadden has not played a down.

We are not drafting Darren McFadden.

patteeu · 04-23-2008, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Ill-Logical

I agree with this but Gholston is the player likely to be left otherwise and he is not a fit on our defense.

We're guaranteed to have a shot at 2 of the following: C. Long, Dorsey, Ryan, Gholston, Ellis in addition to McFadden (assuming he's still there). Even if the Chiefs decide Gholston doesn't fit our defense, which I'm not so sure is the case, that means we have another premier alternative to McFadden available. Throw in the possibility that a trade might be available and there's no reason to spend #5 on McFadden. IMO, the worst case is that we have Ryan, McFadden, and Gholston available to us which should make the #5 pick interesting to a few teams in the 6-10 range if we can't decide which of the 3 we like better.

Logical · 04-23-2008, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

We're guaranteed to have a shot at 2 of the following: C. Long, Dorsey, Ryan, Gholston, Ellis in addition to McFadden (assuming he's still there). Even if the Chiefs decide Gholston doesn't fit our defense, which I'm not so sure is the case, that means we have another premier alternative to McFadden available. Throw in the possibility that a trade might be available and there's no reason to spend #5 on McFadden. IMO, the worst case is that we have Ryan, McFadden, and Gholston available to us which should make the #5 pick interesting to a few teams in the 6-10 range if we can't decide which of the 3 we like better.

I do not consider Ryan a value pick or a BAA at #5 so I eliminate him. The best situation for us is someone above us does a major reach and takes him otherwise I see Dorsey, Long, Long and Ellis going in the top 4 picks leaving us choosing between those three (blyech) so I eliminated Ryan (personal bias) and Gholston (does not fit our scheme) and ended up asking this question.

Brock · 04-23-2008, 02:21 PM

Gholston does fit our scheme. He's the prototype in fact.

patteeu · 04-23-2008, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by oaklandhater

better then LJ yes but not so much better that we should use our 5th pick on him.

Same.

Deberg_1990 · 04-23-2008, 08:44 AM

Geez, at this point who arent the Chiefs interested in?? Lets throw Aqib Talib, Limas Sweed and Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie into the mix as well!

El Jefe · 04-23-2008, 08:48 AM

How are you judging this? McFadden has played how many snaps in the NFL? LJ has been to a pro bowl, that would be like a Rams fan asking who would be a better LT for their team Orlando Pace or Jake Long, one is proven, and the other is not.

vailpass · 04-23-2008, 08:51 AM

IMHO unless things drastically improve along the OL it doesn't matter; both McFadden and LJ will have a tough go of it getting hit in the backfield.

The smart thing for King Carl to do would be to pull off another big trade and send LJ to Denver. The Bronco running game would go from sucky to strong as long as home boy agreed to pass block every now and again.

**Baby Lee** · 04-23-2008, 08:53 AM

The best of all possible worlds would be McFadden and Ryan picked ahead of the Chiefs. There would then be at least one selection well worth the 5th pick left.
One can hope.

Still having two to choose from between Long, Long, Dorsey and Gholston would be wonderful.

Logical · 04-23-2008, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

The best of all possible worlds would be McFadden and Ryan picked ahead of the Chiefs. There would then be at least one selection well worth the 5th pick left.
One can hope.

Still having two to choose from between Long, Long, Dorsey and Gholston would be wonderful.

Yes that would be sweet, but that is not what I see happening. I see all the likely BPA/needs being taken and our choice being Gholston and McFadden for BPA. Gholston may be a better player in a 3-4 but is not a fit in our 4-3 because we are maxed out at LB either choice is not going to be a fit and we are just left with the discards.

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El Jefe Don't tread on me. Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Where the peaches grow Casino cash: $9030572	How are you judging this? McFadden has played how many snaps in the NFL? LJ has been to a pro bowl, that would be like a Rams fan asking who would be a better LT for their team Orlando Pace or Jake Long, one is proven, and the other is not.
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vailpass Psycho Bag Of Squanch Join Date: Sep 2001 Casino cash: $9594244	IMHO unless things drastically improve along the OL it doesn't matter; both McFadden and LJ will have a tough go of it getting hit in the backfield. The smart thing for King Carl to do would be to pull off another big trade and send LJ to Denver. The Bronco running game would go from sucky to strong as long as home boy agreed to pass block every now and again. __________________ “Education is a weapon whose effect depends on who holds it in his hands and at whom it is aimed.” Joseph Stalin
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