Chiefs Gunther's Goalline sell-out

Pitt Gorilla · 09-07-2008, 08:44 PM

was borderline reeruned. It was third and long from the one foot line; keep everything in front of you and DO NOT let them get a first. A punt from the endzone is a huge win in that situation.

I don't know that it cost us the game, but that drive didn't help.

Other than that, the defense (especially the young D-backs and the D-line) played quite well under Gunther's call.

Mecca · 09-07-2008, 08:45 PM

It's Gunther, what did you expect?

kcxiv · 09-07-2008, 08:47 PM

McGraw blew his assignment. I dont know wtf he was doing in there in the first place. It shouldnt have happened. it was a pretty good play call. You dont leave Surtain on an island with Moss. As much as Gun is an average DC he's not that stupid.

Hammock Parties · 09-07-2008, 08:47 PM

Christ, here we go again.

The odds are that the Patriots weren't going to pass given the situation they were in. Since the Chiefs had come so close to forcing a safety on first and second down, it made sense for Gunther to go for the big play.

People will honestly bitch no matter what. Maybe if Patrick Surtain wasn't such a slow ****er they would have forced a punt. But blame Gunther.

Coogs · 09-07-2008, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Claythan

Christ, here we go again.

The odds are that the Patriots weren't going to pass given the situation they were in. Since the Chiefs had come so close to forcing a safety on first and second down, it made sense for Gunther to go for the big play.

People will honestly bitch no matter what. Maybe if Patrick Surtain wasn't such a slow ****er they would have forced a punt. But blame Gunther.

Why the TO? Stupidest call of the game IMO. I think the Pats go 3-and-out without the TO, and we have the ball at midfield at the worst. I knew when we took the TO it was going to backfire.

Stinger · 09-07-2008, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

Why the TO? Stupidest call of the game IMO. I think the Pats go 3-and-out without the TO, and we have the ball at midfield at the worst. I knew when we took the TO it was going to backfire.

Only thing I could think of was maybe looking/waiting for a replay to see if it was a safety and then challenge the play?

Coogs · 09-07-2008, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Stinger

Only thing I could think of was maybe looking/waiting for a replay to see if it was a safety and then challenge the play?

Maybe. I knew we were screwed as soon as we took the TO though.

**noa** · 09-07-2008, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

Why the TO? Stupidest call of the game IMO. I think the Pats go 3-and-out without the TO, and we have the ball at midfield at the worst. I knew when we took the TO it was going to backfire.

Exactly, we had momentum and killed it. Did them a favor.

Chiefnj2 · 09-08-2008, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

Why the TO? Stupidest call of the game IMO. I think the Pats go 3-and-out without the TO, and we have the ball at midfield at the worst. I knew when we took the TO it was going to backfire.

The reason for the TO was the wind. KC was trying to kill the clock and get them to punt from their endzone into the wind before they switched sides for the 2nd quarter. Herm was playing a field position game.

Stinger · 09-07-2008, 08:47 PM

SO McGraw not being in position has nothing to do with this??????

**jjchieffan** · 09-07-2008, 08:48 PM

Gunther was playing aggressively. That is his strong suit. Are you guys actually going to bitch that the offense was too conservative, and then turn around and bitch because the D played aggressively?

penchief · 09-08-2008, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan

Gunther was playing aggressively. That is his strong suit. Are you guys actually going to bitch that the offense was too conservative, and then turn around and bitch because the D played aggressively?

This has been my complaint about his aggressiveness for a long time. He's too predictable and it too often results in giving up a big play. I can't count how many times we've been burned for huge plays on third down blitzes.

If his aggressiveness is his strong suit it's time for a new coordinator, IMO.

Deberg_1990 · 09-07-2008, 08:48 PM

That was a horrible call yes.

I wont get too down on Gun today, because the D played fairly good overall.

The Run D still has some problems. Pat Thomas is weak.

dj56dt58 · 09-07-2008, 08:48 PM

we had to go for the safety..it's not like the offense was going to do anything with Herm's dumbass playcalling

that said, it was a bad call because we could have tacked the mother****ers in the back endzone and they wouldn't have called a ****ing safety..**** the refs

Pitt Gorilla · 09-07-2008, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dj56dt58

we had to go for the safety..it's not like the offense was going to do anything with Herm's dumbass playcalling

that said, it was a bad call because we could have tacked the mother****ers in the back endzone and they wouldn't have called a ****ing safety..**** the refs

A safety gives us 2 points and the result of a free kick. Punting out of the endzone sets us up pretty well on O. I'm not convinced that the small probability of getting a safety is a better play than forcing them to punt out of the endzone.

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kcxiv In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Central Valley, Cali Casino cash: $8697996	McGraw blew his assignment. I dont know wtf he was doing in there in the first place. It shouldnt have happened. it was a pretty good play call. You dont leave Surtain on an island with Moss. As much as Gun is an average DC he's not that stupid.
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Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $810478	Christ, here we go again. The odds are that the Patriots weren't going to pass given the situation they were in. Since the Chiefs had come so close to forcing a safety on first and second down, it made sense for Gunther to go for the big play. People will honestly bitch no matter what. Maybe if Patrick Surtain wasn't such a slow ****er they would have forced a punt. But blame Gunther. __________________ Chiefs game films
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Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $114454	That was a horrible call yes. I wont get too down on Gun today, because the D played fairly good overall. The Run D still has some problems. Pat Thomas is weak. __________________ Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning: Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down. One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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dj56dt58 Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Missouri Casino cash: $9960055	we had to go for the safety..it's not like the offense was going to do anything with Herm's dumbass playcalling that said, it was a bad call because we could have tacked the mother**ers in the back endzone and they wouldn't have called a ing safety..** the refs
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