Chiefs Herm a lame duck coach going into next year

FringeNC · 12-14-2008, 11:14 PM

It seems to me that it wouldn't be a good idea to have a lame duck coach next year -- or least I think that's what Peterson and Hunt will think -- so it seems to me that either Herm is fired or given an extension after the season is over.

Weird. Some situation as he had in NY.

Mecca · 12-14-2008, 11:18 PM

A friend of mine, non Chiefs fan, asked me how in the world the Chiefs could even consider bringing him back, and I honestly can't answer that question.

There are going to be alot of coaches get fired this year...most of them have better records than Herm does.

FringeNC · 12-14-2008, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

A friend of mine, non Chiefs fan, asked me how in the world the Chiefs could even consider bringing him back, and I honestly can't answer that question.

There are going to be alot of coaches get fired this year...most of them have better records than Herm does.

Having a lame duck coach didn't work out too well for the Seahawks this year. I just don't think the Chiefs will go that route. I guess they could put him on probation and give him a 1-year extension, but wouldn't that be unusual?

Brock · 12-14-2008, 11:19 PM

He'll be extended, get used to it.

FringeNC · 12-14-2008, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

He'll be extended, get used to it.

Yeah, that's my guess, too, but the longer it goes without him getting extended -- maybe it's not a done deal yet. When this went down in NY, Herm still had two years left I believe, and demanded an extension.

Fish · 12-14-2008, 11:21 PM

Maybe if you create another thread, it will really come true.....

FringeNC · 12-14-2008, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish

Maybe if you create another thread, it will really come true.....

You didn't have to respond -- but I do think it's noteworthy that it's really not a question of whether he's fired or not -- it's a question of whether he's re-upped or fired.

unothadeal · 12-14-2008, 11:22 PM

Herm is getting another year because he is "rebuilding." If his rebuild works he'll probably be here for another 5 years with a mediocre team. If it doesn't a new coach will be brought in and we'll be right back where we started.

Mecca · 12-14-2008, 11:26 PM

Man if the Chiefs really give him an extension people are going to laugh at the stupidity of that.

**007** · 12-15-2008, 03:48 AM

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Man if the Chiefs really give him an extension people are going to laugh at the stupidity of that.

Yet they will still pay for the tickets.

Zouk · 12-14-2008, 11:27 PM

I think he can come back without an extension and coach for his job next year. It's happened with other teams. There's a 0% chance he gets an extension before next year.

FringeNC · 12-14-2008, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Zouk

I think he can come back without an extension and coach for his job next year. It's happened with other teams. There's a 0% chance he gets an extension before next year.

I dunno -- isn't credibility with the players an issue for a coach on his last year? I don't think it's very common.

Zouk · 12-14-2008, 11:40 PM

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I dunno -- isn't credibility with the players an issue for a coach on his last year? I don't think it's very common.

It's definitely not common but it has happened recently. Jauron started this year as a lame duck as an example. And Herm has never had a problem with credibility or relationship with players. Say what you will about the man but everyone close to his teams has acknowledged that as the truth. If he competes for a playoff berth at the end of 2009 he gets a contract, if he doesn't he's gone. Simple and clean.

But I think it's only a little better than 50/50 he's back next year - based on nothing but guessing.

Coach · 12-14-2008, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Zouk

It's definitely not common but it has happened recently. Jauron started this year as a lame duck as an example. And Herm has never had a problem with credibility or relationship with players. Say what you will about the man but everyone close to his teams has acknowledged that as the truth. If he competes for a playoff berth at the end of 2009 he gets a contract, if he doesn't he's gone. Simple and clean.

But I think it's only a little better than 50/50 he's back next year - based on nothing but guessing.

Call it a hunch, but I don't see the 09 team contending for a playoff spot.

smittysbar · 12-14-2008, 11:44 PM

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Call it a hunch, but I don't see the 09 team contending for a playoff spot.

Strange, I have the same hunch

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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-782950	Man if the Chiefs really give him an extension people are going to laugh at the stupidity of that.
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Zouk Veteran Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: DC Casino cash: $10004900	I think he can come back without an extension and coach for his job next year. It's happened with other teams. There's a 0% chance he gets an extension before next year.
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