Enough of the "close games" BS

[FringeNC]

Here's some sobering stats on league rankings for both point differentials and yardage differentials. These are appalling stats.

Year points yards
2005 9 1
2006 13 17
2007 26 24
2008 29 26

These are not the statistics of a team headed in the right direction. Sorry.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

We're on pace for next year to be like, 35 50.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by FringeNC

Sorry.

Don't apologize.

[dj56dt58]

jesus christ, not this shit again. We don't have the best offensive line, Trent Green, and Priest Holmes..we have a bunch of young players including a young quarterback, let them ****ing develop. christ

[KCJohnny]

We lost 8 games by 7 or less and won 2 so far. We only got beaten badly 2 or three times. Bills, Titans and Panthers games.

Youngest team in the NFL. 18 rookies. $32 mil under the cap.

'Nuff said.

Merry Christmas.

[dj56dt58]

Originally Posted by KCJohnny

We lost 8 games by 7 or less and won 2 so far. We only got beaten badly 2 or three times. Bills, Titans and Panthers games.

Youngest team in the NFL. 18 rookies. $32 mil under the cap.

'Nuff said.

Merry Christmas.

why can't people understand this?

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by dj56dt58

why can't people understand this?

While i am not a fan of Herm, i understand how this team is losing. Especially on the defensive side of the ball. The Offense has seen some nice days, but our defense hasnt at all. We have absolutely no defense atm. We make a few plays here and there, but overall its the same shit different week.

People will just let their emotions take control of everything. I understand that, i still expect to see sperman here next year though. Thats when i hope we draft a QB after his ass is long gone.

[KCJohnny]

Originally Posted by kcxiv

While i am not a fan of Herm, i understand how this team is losing. Especially on the defensive side of the ball. The Offense has seen some nice days, but our defense hasnt at all. We have absolutely no defense atm. We make a few plays here and there, but overall its the same shit different week.

People will just let their emotions take control of everything. I understand that, i still expect to see sperman here next year though. Thats when i hope we draft a QB after his ass is long gone.

No doubt the FO and staff know this. It will be addressed in the off season. No one forsaw what a big loss Jared Allen would turn out to be. Clearly he was carrying the D on his shoulders. The offense was needy in '07, and it was addressed. Some by intention (Albert, Charles, Cottom, Cox, Franklin) and some by dumb luck (Bradley, Thigpen).

I hope we snatch up some pricey FAs like Miami did in the offseason (Jason Taylor, Chad Pennington, one of their WRs - forgot who...). I think if Donnie Edwards and Pat Surtain had not been hurt so much we could have won a couple more games.

[KCJohnny]

Originally Posted by dj56dt58

why can't people understand this?

I think there is a duplicitous application of realistic expectations here.
On the one hand, the consensus was "rip it up by the roots and start all over again - go young, build with the draft." That consensus opinion was well-informed about the bad season(s) necessary to pursue that course of action. They seemed willing to accept the bad season(s) if it led to long term success.

Now the same consensus is complaining that the Chiefs aren't winning enough. That's hypocritical. Can't have it both ways. This team is exactly where they should be and clearly they have bottomed out and are climbing. Many times I have mentioned the '89 'Boys (1-15) and the '98 Colts (3-13) that both became dynasties after going young and suffering through a bad season or two. It takes time. The sheer amount of close games is a key indicator that this youngest of all NFL squads is right on pace. That's exactly what was happening to the 1-15 Dolphins last year. We'll be the '08 Dolphins next year.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by KCJohnny

I think there is a duplicitous application of realistic expectations here.
On the one hand, the consensus was "rip it up by the roots and start all over again - go young, build with the draft." That consensus opinion was well-informed about the bad season(s) necessary to pursue that course of action. They seemed willing to accept the bad season(s) if it led to long term success.

Now the same consensus is complaining that the Chiefs aren't winning enough. That's hypocritical. Can't have it both ways. This team is exactly where they should be and clearly they have bottomed out and are climbing. Many times I have mentioned the '89 'Boys (1-15) and the '98 Colts (3-13) that both became dynasties after going young and suffering through a bad season or two. It takes time. The sheer amount of close games is a key indicator that this youngest of all NFL squads is right on pace. That's exactly what was happening to the 1-15 Dolphins last year. We'll be the '08 Dolphins next year.

Damn it you ****ing moron.

Pay the **** attention.

Most people aren't pissed about the rebuild.

They're pissed because these young guys had opportunities to win games, but the stupid ****ing coaches failed them.

And, sadly, those same stupid ****ing coaches look like Einstein next to your dumb ass.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by dj56dt58

why can't people understand this?

Because they are STILL LOSSES. Losing close games tells me that this team has talent, but they have shitty coaching that can't finish the job.

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by dj56dt58

why can't people understand this?

Ditto.

Go back and look at how Favre and Manning and Aikman played their first years. Manning had three 3 INT games in the first 4 if memory serves. Not saying Thigpen is on par with these guys -- but he could be if we don't sack the whole thing and start from scratch again with a new rookie when we have a team putting up points. Fix the second half production problems and get some defense I say...

[Agent V]

Originally Posted by KCJohnny

We lost 8 games by 7 or less and won 2 so far. We only got beaten badly 2 or three times. Bills, Titans and Panthers games.

Youngest team in the NFL. 18 rookies. $32 mil under the cap.

'Nuff said.

Merry Christmas.

How is losing close games IN NEARLY THE SAME FASHION every damn time a positive thing? Are we supposed to be pleased with losing?

Clark Hunt stated if this team is 4-12 or worse, it would be a disappointment. He expected to contend THIS YEAR. We're not contending, we're showing teams we roll over in the second half.

Woo hoo! That's rebuilding! Not knowing how to win is a real step in the right direction.

[Skip Towne]

Good coaches win the close games. Herm loses them.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by KCJohnny

We lost 8 games by 7 or less and won 2 so far. We only got beaten badly 2 or three times. Bills, Titans and Panthers games.

Youngest team in the NFL. 18 rookies. $32 mil under the cap.

'Nuff said.

Merry Christmas.

I just had a Vermeil flashback -

"You take out the two long runs where they gashed us for 146 yards, and we held them to 73 yards rushing on 28 carries..."