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Old 04-07-2009, 02:45 PM   Topic Starter
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Why I do not favor going QB with the #3 overall.
It's not that I don't love Sanchez and Stafford. I do -- especially Sanchez.

My major issue, aside from the fact that it would mean the Chiefs picking up QB with their 1st and 2nd round picks from this Draft, is Cassell.

I don't know if Cassell is the stud that he was in New England, but he probably isn't. He's a game manager, and he's a pretty tough one at that. I don't think he can win games by the pure force of his will, but he won't be the reason the Chiefs lose many games, either. He's a conservative choice.

And, well, I believe he'll succeed conservatively. I don't think he'll ever put up Pro Bowl numbers for us, but I do think he'll be a safe option at QB who can be ensured to be careful with the ball and not wilt under pressure.

I don't want a rookie stud behind him because the rookie will waste away there. Cassell may, in all likelihood, remain perfectly healthy. It will be unlikely that we ever have to play our rookie for an extended amount of time as Cassell sort-of flourishes in that Cassell-like way.

Can you see ANY NFL team abandon a sure, safe option at QB for an unknown? I can't. Not even Pioli.

Which in all likelihood means we will allow this rookie to rot on the bench, or we'll trade him away -- and if we trade him away, what are the odds we end up with a Top 5 pick? Next to zero. Lost value, for nothing.

If you see Cassell crashing and burning, than Sanchez makes sense. But if you're like me, and you see him simply play well but never spectacularly, I doubt we'll ever make the most out of our #3 overall QB.
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Old 04-07-2009, 02:50 PM   #2
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Why I do favor it:

If Cassell meets or exceeds expectations, the Chiefs can trade him for a king's ransom in 2 years when the rookie is ready.


I don't think there's any chance it happens.
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Old 04-07-2009, 02:52 PM   #3
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Why I do favor it:

If Cassell meets or exceeds expectations, the Chiefs can trade him for a king's ransom in 2 years when the rookie is ready.
You honestly think the Chiefs will get better than the 34th overall pick for him in two years?
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Old 04-07-2009, 02:53 PM   #4
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You honestly think the Chiefs will get better than the 34th overall pick for him in two years?
Possibly, look how many QB starved teams there are and the spread fixation that is taking over college.
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Old 04-07-2009, 02:55 PM   #5
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You honestly think the Chiefs will get better than the 34th overall pick for him in two years?
They could get better than that THIS year.

As long as he doesn't sustain a serious injury, or has a Derek Anderson-like collapse, there's no doubt in my mind that some team(s) would be willing to give up a mid/late first for him.
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Old 04-07-2009, 03:01 PM   #6
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You honestly think the Chiefs will get better than the 34th overall pick for him in two years?
Will? I don't know. Can? Absolutely. I mean, seriously, if he was worth the 34th pick after 15 games as a starter, imagine what he'd bring with two more successful years under his belt. He has any degree of success and he'll bring multiple picks including a first rounder. We're talking about a 29-year old quarterback, barely into his prime...

Again, I have no idea how he'll play, and I'm not making any kind of prediction; this is just a possible scenario.
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Why I do favor it:

Potential Franchise QB >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> game manager.
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Old 04-07-2009, 05:07 PM   #8
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Why I do favor it:

Potential Franchise QB >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> game manager.
Serious question: What characteristics/traits do you see in Sanchez that will make him a "potential franchise quarterback" compared to Matt Cassel?
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Serious question: What characteristics/traits do you see in Sanchez that will make him a "potential franchise quarterback" compared to Matt Cassel?
How many times does this question need to be answered?
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Old 04-07-2009, 10:39 PM   #10
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How many times does this question need to be answered?
Once would be nice. And make sure it's a well-thought out, objective answer.
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Old 04-07-2009, 10:45 PM   #11
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Once would be nice. And make sure it's a well-thought out, objective answer.
Because scouting is ever objective. Get real.
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Serious question: What characteristics/traits do you see in Sanchez that will make him a "potential franchise quarterback" compared to Matt Cassel?
From http://www.draftcountdown.com/scouti...rk-Sanchez.php.

I removed the physical stuff because alot of guys have what it takes physically. When I look at a QB, I want to know if he has "it". Here's what Scott Wright says:

Really anticipates well and displays nice touch and timing...
Intelligent with a high football IQ...
Recognizes blitzes, can read coverages and go through his progressions...
Is tough, fiery and super competitive...
Truly loves the game...
Excellent work ethic...
A team leader and field general...

And here's his complete list of negatives, physical and mental:

Limited starting experience...Doesn't have the ideal height that you look for...Durability is a concern...Does not always throw a tight spiral...Has some trouble with the deep ball...Can get flustered by a strong pass rush...Makes some bad decisions...Won't run away from people...Had an issue off-the-field...Was surrounded by a lot of talent.

Notice that, other than "Had an issue off-the-field" he has ZERO emotional negatives? The only mental negatives he has between the lines is dealing with overwhelming rushes and making a few bad decisions. Otherwise, they're all physical.

I'm 100% convinced this guy has "it".
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Can you see ANY NFL team abandon a sure, safe option at QB for an unknown? I can't. Not even Pioli.
Isn't that EXACTLY what the Patriots did with Bledsoe and Brady?
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Isn't that EXACTLY what the Patriots did with Bledsoe and Brady?
Chargers did it.
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Isn't that EXACTLY what the Patriots did with Bledsoe and Brady?
Not at all.
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