Chiefs I honestly think it's gonna be a bit difficult to trade down

RedThat · 04-09-2009, 09:16 AM

The reason I say that is other teams that may want to trade up are going to have pay quite a bit to move up into the Chiefs draft slot.

in other words, I just think another team is going to have to give up too much value. And I recall Teicher mentioning that in one of his video blogs. That he doesn't think a trade down from the Chiefs will happen for those reasons. Im gonna have to agree with him there.

Im just thinking from a realistic standpoint of view. Although, I do want a trade down to happen? Only for purposes of accumulating more picks in the process, and I just strongly feel that in this draft there are no real players in the top 5 that just blow you away. I just think it's going to be very hard, unless there is a highly coveted player another team may want, and the deal makes sense then I can see a trade down happening. But, I just don't feel optimistic about it.

keg in kc · 04-09-2009, 09:18 AM

A lot of us have been saying that for a while now. If we move down, it's not going to be a traditional 'value chart' kind of move, because the top of the draft is so weak.

I'd take less to move out of the top 5 and accrue more picks if at all possible, but that's just me.

htismaqe · 04-09-2009, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

I'd take less to move out of the top 5 and accrue more picks if at all possible, but that's just me.

This.

King_Chief_Fan · 04-09-2009, 09:19 AM

If we want to gamble, pick Sanchez with the 3rd. Trade him to the highest bidder if one available or trade Cassel for highest bidder if one available. If not, well, we are set at QB

RedThat · 04-09-2009, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

If we want to gamble, pick Sanchez with the 3rd. Trade him to the highest bidder if one available or trade Cassel for highest bidder if one available. If not, well, we are set at QB

We are set at QB. Matt Cassell is our 2nd round pick pretty much?

I just don't see the Chiefs trading Cassell, especially when they just gave up a 2nd rounder to get him? And that is quite a bit of value. I look at the roster I see Cassell and Thigpen, yup those are our quarterbacks pretty much going into the season.

I just can't see them drafting Sanchez either? I just don't see it as a realistic possibility. Simply because I believe Pioli has his mind set on Cassell. They are probably not going to draft a quarterback either? If they do, it'll be a depth move imo. Maybe one in like the 5th or 6th round. I just think the Chiefs are not going to have any other choice but to draft BPA to along with position of need at #3.

Brock · 04-09-2009, 09:47 AM

If Stafford or Sanchez is there at 3, you draft them. There, wasn't that simple?

Duck Dog · 04-09-2009, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

If Stafford or Sanchez is there at 3, you draft them. There, wasn't that simple?

No brainer, IMO. Either will easily replace Thigpen right away.

ToxSocks · 04-09-2009, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Duck Dog

No brainer, IMO. Either will easily replace Thigpen right away.

Yeah, cuz that's what we need right now, another Backup QB

Pitt Gorilla · 04-09-2009, 09:52 AM

If Stafford goes #1, somebody will want Sanchez at 3. We may not get full value, but we'd get something pretty close.

ToxSocks · 04-09-2009, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

If Stafford goes #1, somebody will want Sanchez at 3. We may not get full value, but we'd get something pretty close.

I just dont want us to trade out of the Top ten. But, im all for picking up a second.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-09-2009, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by RedBull

We are set at QB. Matt Cassell is our 2nd round pick pretty much?

I just don't see the Chiefs trading Cassell, especially when they just gave up a 2nd rounder to get him? And that is quite a bit of value.

Like I said in another thread:

If I bought a house last month for $250,000, and someone called me and offered me $325,000 to sell by the end of this month, I'm packing my shit as fast as I can.

Yeah, we gave up a 2nd round pick to get him, but we'd very likely be getting a pick around #20 in the 1st round if we dealt him.

That's GAINING value.

T-post Tom · 04-09-2009, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Like I said in another thread:

If I bought a house last month for $250,000, and someone called me and offered me $325,000 to sell by the end of this month, I'm packing my shit as fast as I can.

Yeah, we gave up a 2nd round pick to get him, but we'd very likely be getting a pick around #20 in the 1st round if we dealt him.

That's GAINING value.

True, but only if you make the right pick at #20. Do you think there will be a player at #20 who has a higher value than Cassel? Do you trust the Chiefs to draft that player? The draft is such a crapshoot. [But still exciting.]

With Peterson, I'd stick with the "a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush" philosophy. I'm not sure yet about Pioli. Right now I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt as he has the pedigree for success. As everyone knows, we won't be able to accurately grade this draft for quite a while.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-09-2009, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom

True, but only if you make the right pick at #20. Do you think there will be a player at #20 who has a higher value than Cassel? Do you trust the Chiefs to draft that player? The draft is such a crapshoot. [But still exciting.]

IMO, that wouldn't be terribly difficult, as I don't see Cassel as an elite, franchise QB.

Personally, I think Pioli would probably trade down again from 20 and pick up a later first and another pick.

If we stayed, there are several players that would help us around #20:

Sintim
Oher
Heyward-Bey
English
Matthews
V. Davis
Laurinaitiis

htismaqe · 04-09-2009, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by RedBull

We are set at QB.

In your opinion.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-09-2009, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

In your opinion.

I can understand being optimistic and HOPING that Cassel works out, but to say that we are set at QB is mind-blowing.

2 QB's with a year of experience.

One of them surrounded by the greatest offensive talent of the past 10 years and the closest thing we've had to a dynasty this decade - along with the best HC in recent memory.

The other, needed to have the offense changed mid-season to accommodate his deficiencies, and still only won one game.

04-09-2009, 09:16 AM	Topic Starter
RedThat Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Earth Casino cash: $10004900	I honestly think it's gonna be a bit difficult to trade down The reason I say that is other teams that may want to trade up are going to have pay quite a bit to move up into the Chiefs draft slot. in other words, I just think another team is going to have to give up too much value. And I recall Teicher mentioning that in one of his video blogs. That he doesn't think a trade down from the Chiefs will happen for those reasons. Im gonna have to agree with him there. Im just thinking from a realistic standpoint of view. Although, I do want a trade down to happen? Only for purposes of accumulating more picks in the process, and I just strongly feel that in this draft there are no real players in the top 5 that just blow you away. I just think it's going to be very hard, unless there is a highly coveted player another team may want, and the deal makes sense then I can see a trade down happening. But, I just don't feel optimistic about it.
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04-09-2009, 09:19 AM	#4
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04-09-2009, 09:18 AM	#2
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	A lot of us have been saying that for a while now. If we move down, it's not going to be a traditional 'value chart' kind of move, because the top of the draft is so weak. I'd take less to move out of the top 5 and accrue more picks if at all possible, but that's just me.
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