Chiefs My observations from camp

jlscorpio · 08-06-2009, 07:27 PM

I attended my 3rd training camp in 6 years Aug 3-5. Here's my thoughts:

-- I love me some Cassel. Simply put, the guy gets the ball where it's supposed to be. He seems to have some leadership qualities as well.

-- Haley is coaching his ass off. If we still suck this year, at least it's finally because of talent deficiency, and not because we call 2 TO's on the same play.

-- Mark Bradley is a fuq-up, Webb will be cut in first round. Welcome aboard Toomer!

-- Alex Magee will start. I know the term "motor" gets thrown around a lot, but this angry sumbitch is the walking definition of it.

-- the new scheme on Defense will benefit DJ quite a bit. The guy is simply too talented to disappear for games at a time like he has the last few years. I blame Goonther.

-- Ryan Succup is the tallest kicker I've ever seen. I can already go out on a limb and say he's not the worst kicker we've had here since Morten Andersen filed for social security. He may even be pretty damn good.

-- The main beneficiary of Haley's hire will be Dwayne Bowe. Haley hasn't forgotten where he came from. He's on the WR's asses like fat on Jamarcus Russell.

That's my 2 pennies. This was the best of my 3 visits there. Maybe it's because I actually like this coach/GM/QB. For anyone that's neve rbeen to camp, you gotta go. I'll miss RF, but hopefully moving it closer to home will give KC locals a better opportunity to go. Later.

**DaFace** · 08-06-2009, 07:35 PM

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**Rain Man** · 08-06-2009, 07:42 PM

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Who are our outside linebackers, and what is Andy Studebaker looking like?

jlscorpio · 08-06-2009, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

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Who are our outside linebackers, and what is Andy Studebaker looking like?

Looks like Vrabel and Hali are the starting OLB's, but don't be surprised if Vince Redd pushes for some time. His first day in camp, he blocked a kick and picked off a pass for what would've been a pick 6. Studebaker was pretty unspectacular, I think he was working w/the 3rd unit. One thing I can guarantee, if starters aren't producing, Haley won't be afraid to put someone in who can.

**RealSNR** · 08-07-2009, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jlscorpio

Looks like Vrabel and Hali are the starting OLB's, but don't be surprised if Vince Redd pushes for some time. His first day in camp, he blocked a kick and picked off a pass for what would've been a pick 6. Studebaker was pretty unspectacular, I think he was working w/the 3rd unit. One thing I can guarantee, if starters aren't producing, Haley won't be afraid to put someone in who can.

The trouble is, of course, finding someone who can take the ineffective starter's place. We're going to suck eggs this year at LB. We've got mediocre starters and absolutely no depth.

I hope guys like Magee (I'm pumped about that report you gave about him) Tank, Dorsey, and Jackson are prepared to make the transition, and that it benefits them greatly. Otherwise we'll be screwed. Our young secondary is too talented to have to put up with shit like this.

jlscorpio · 08-07-2009, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

The trouble is, of course, finding someone who can take the ineffective starter's place. We're going to suck eggs this year at LB. We've got mediocre starters and absolutely no depth.

I hope guys like Magee (I'm pumped about that report you gave about him) Tank, Dorsey, and Jackson are prepared to make the transition, and that it benefits them greatly. Otherwise we'll be screwed. Our young secondary is too talented to have to put up with shit like this.

That's definately one of this team's inconvenient truths. I see us using 2 of our 3 "starter" picks (that's what I call rds 1 and 2 in the draft) on the front 7, and either WR or OL with the other.

cmh6476 · 08-07-2009, 10:39 PM

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That's definately one of this team's inconvenient truths. I see us using 2 of our 3 "starter" picks (that's what I call rds 1 and 2 in the draft) on the front 7, and either WR or OL with the other.

if we suck this year, at least we'll have good draft picks next year

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KCTitus · 08-06-2009, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jlscorpio

-- Haley is coaching his ass off. If we still suck this year, at least it's finally because of talent deficiency, and not because we call 2 TO's on the same play.

interesting comment...coaching v. talent has always been a debate depending upon one's acceptance of the coaches philosophy.

If it's more 'play not to lose' philosophy, it will be Haley's fault, to me, regardless of talent level.

InChiefsHeaven · 08-06-2009, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by KCTitus

interesting comment...coaching v. talent has always been a debate depending upon one's acceptance of the coaches philosophy.

If it's more 'play not to lose' philosophy, it will be Haley's fault, to me, regardless of talent level.

Especially when you consider the changes he's made and the guys they've brought in...this is HIS team, no doubt.

**Saulbadguy** · 08-07-2009, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by KCTitus

interesting comment...coaching v. talent has always been a debate depending upon one's acceptance of the coaches philosophy.

If it's more 'play not to lose' philosophy, it will be Haley's fault, to me, regardless of talent level.

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