Chiefs A few thoughts on individual performances in tonights game....

shammus · 10:22 PM

Don't really have any stats to back all this up but here's what I noticed as I was watching tonights game. Defense shows some promise but offense appeared to be really sputtering. Succup and Colquitt were solid on special teams while our return game was pretty bad. Anyways, I'm sure there's stuff I missed, but here's what I saw specifically -

The Good

Offense
Dwayne Bowe - the offense didn't really pick up until he got into the game. Had several nice plays, including a diving catch and didn't drop any passes. He might have been our biggest impact player in that game. Bradley had a couple nice grabs too.
First team Oline - didn't get to watch this unit too close. Looked like Albert was doing well though.
Dantrell Savage had several nice runs and a good catch out of the backfield.
Backup quarterbacks - looked like Croyle did a decent job moving the ball down the field and Thigpen had some success when he was in as well (mostly running though)

Defense
Dorsey and Jackson appeared to be getting good penetration. I thought I saw Jackson even get a sack or did they give that to Studebaker?
Derrick Johnson was all over the field...several tackles
Tamba Hali - same thing...a couple of his stops were in the backfield
Corey Mays - also racked up quite a few tackles. On the whole, the first team unit of linebackers did really well. Demorrio Williams played well when he was in too. Didn't hear them call Vrabel's name though....
Flowers was very effective. Forced a fumble, nearly had a pick six and played solid defense. I thought Leggett looked really good too - had a sack in the first quarter and was still making plays in the 4th
Alex Magee had a few nice stops at the line against the run that I noticed

Special Teams
Succop was very impressive. All kickoffs were into the endzone or close to it. That 48 yard field goal was absolutely nailed. Very impressive in the rain.

The Bad

Offense
The one sack we gave up looked like Brandon Albert's fault. It appeared it was Albert who totally whiffed on Connor Barwin but the announcers said it was Herb Taylor. Offensive line play dropped off when the backups came in.
The success we had running the ball appeared to be because of Jackie Battle and Dantrell Savage, two guys fighting for a spot with the team. LJ and Javarris Williams were "meh" at best and I don't even recall Jamaal Charles getting in the game.
I noticed Thigpen running for his life and Croyle throwing on the run quite a bit.
The offense really sputtered when Cassel was running it. He had Copper and Darling as his starting wideouts though. When Bradley and Bowe came in, things picked up. Cassel had a couple nice completions and it looked like a couple of the others were dropped.
Did Toomer or Engram even play??

Defense
Didn't seem as though our 2nd team defense put any pressure on the QB and they were able to move the ball down the field easier
Didn't hear Tank Tyler's name called more than once (for a tackle) and didn't hear Edwards called at all. How was our play at NT??

Ugh.....for Chrissakes....
Not pretty for our return game. Never saw anyone get past the 23 yard line on a KR or PR and nobody (Savage, Lawrence, Wright) really stood out and distinguished themselves. I noticed a couple drops too which I suppose happens in the rain.
Letting Matt Turk rumble for a first down was abysmal. He even fumbled the snap first. Someone clearly missed an assignment on that one...
Both Cassel and Croyle fumbled a snap apiece from under center. This led to two turnovers on our side of the field. Oddly enough, Houston didn't appear to have any issues hanging on to the ball though...hmmmm....

MOhillbilly · 08-15-2009, 10:08 PM

the middle killed us on D. dink,doink,touchdown.

both sides are terrible,some flashes but still dismal.

kstater · 08-15-2009, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

the middle killed us on D. dink,doink,touchdown.

both sides are terrible,some flashes but still dismal.

This, pretty much. The lack of overall talent shows.

Hammock Parties · 08-15-2009, 10:09 PM

Succop boomed that shit. And I ain't talking about his figgie.

Mecca · 08-15-2009, 10:10 PM

For ugh the Brodie Croyle intentional grounding play was so bad it was laugh worthy.

Hammock Parties · 08-15-2009, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

For ugh the Brodie Croyle intentional grounding play was so bad it was laugh worthy.

That's Croyle's lovable hick streak.

The_Doctor10 · 08-15-2009, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

For ugh the Brodie Croyle intentional grounding play was so bad it was laugh worthy.

I'm waiting for you to maybe concede that Haley getting tough with Bowe during the last week or so MAY have contributed to his performance tonight.

Just a thought though :P

Titty Meat · 08-15-2009, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Unleash_the_Phury

I'm waiting for you to maybe concede that Haley getting tough with Bowe during the last week or so MAY have contributed to his performance tonight.

Just a thought though :P

Yea cuz Bowe never played that good in games aginst starters.

The_Doctor10 · 08-15-2009, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by billay

Yea cuz Bowe never played that good in games aginst starters.

The key stat would be 'Zero Drops'. In a fairly heavy rain, from what I could tell, no less. Bowe had a tremendous impact in the limited time he was on the field, and maybe, just MAYBE, it might indicate he's responding positively to what Haley's trying to teach him.

EyePod · 08-16-2009, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

For ugh the Brodie Croyle intentional grounding play was so bad it was laugh worthy.

I really thought it didn't matter if you were out of the pocket, I've seen that same play by Brady with no flag.

**cdcox** · 08-16-2009, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by EyePod

I really thought it didn't matter if you were out of the pocket, I've seen that same play by Brady with no flag.

You have to throw the ball past the LOS. Just a mental breakdown by Croyle.

EyePod · 08-16-2009, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by cdcox

You have to throw the ball past the LOS. Just a mental breakdown by Croyle.

He doesn't do it often, and it's the preseason. He won't ever do that again. He made his statement on the field. What happens though if Croyle looks much better all preseason? I know Haley says that he has an open competition, but I'm guessing that he wouldn't, which sucks (although Brodie just can't stay healthy ever...).

**Buehler445** · 08-16-2009, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by EyePod

He doesn't do it often, and it's the preseason. He won't ever do that again. He made his statement on the field. What happens though if Croyle looks much better all preseason? I know Haley says that he has an open competition, but I'm guessing that he wouldn't, which sucks (although Brodie just can't stay healthy ever...).

My guess is he will pull the practice card. "We look at the total package. OTAs, Training Camp, Preseason, all of it. Cassel has been the unquestioned leader and done what we've asked of him."

Titty Meat · 08-15-2009, 10:12 PM

Jarrad Page wiffed on a tackle and missed another. Why isn't Mike Brown starting instead of Page? Brown was in on that sweep play that only got 2 yards easily could have been a first down.

**Slainte** · 08-15-2009, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by shammus

Both Cassel and Croyle fumbled a snap apiece from under center. This led to two turnovers on our side of the field. Oddly enough, Houston didn't appear to have any issues hanging on to the ball though...hmmmm....

Houston had problems with LS/Punter exchange twice. Two opportunities to capitalize but our ST failed...

08-15-2009, 10:04 PM	Topic Starter
shammus Starter Join Date: Sep 2006 Casino cash: $7674957	A few thoughts on individual performances in tonights game.... Don't really have any stats to back all this up but here's what I noticed as I was watching tonights game. Defense shows some promise but offense appeared to be really sputtering. Succup and Colquitt were solid on special teams while our return game was pretty bad. Anyways, I'm sure there's stuff I missed, but here's what I saw specifically - The Good Offense Dwayne Bowe - the offense didn't really pick up until he got into the game. Had several nice plays, including a diving catch and didn't drop any passes. He might have been our biggest impact player in that game. Bradley had a couple nice grabs too. First team Oline - didn't get to watch this unit too close. Looked like Albert was doing well though. Dantrell Savage had several nice runs and a good catch out of the backfield. Backup quarterbacks - looked like Croyle did a decent job moving the ball down the field and Thigpen had some success when he was in as well (mostly running though) Defense Dorsey and Jackson appeared to be getting good penetration. I thought I saw Jackson even get a sack or did they give that to Studebaker? Derrick Johnson was all over the field...several tackles Tamba Hali - same thing...a couple of his stops were in the backfield Corey Mays - also racked up quite a few tackles. On the whole, the first team unit of linebackers did really well. Demorrio Williams played well when he was in too. Didn't hear them call Vrabel's name though.... Flowers was very effective. Forced a fumble, nearly had a pick six and played solid defense. I thought Leggett looked really good too - had a sack in the first quarter and was still making plays in the 4th Alex Magee had a few nice stops at the line against the run that I noticed Special Teams Succop was very impressive. All kickoffs were into the endzone or close to it. That 48 yard field goal was absolutely nailed. Very impressive in the rain. The Bad Offense The one sack we gave up looked like Brandon Albert's fault. It appeared it was Albert who totally whiffed on Connor Barwin but the announcers said it was Herb Taylor. Offensive line play dropped off when the backups came in. The success we had running the ball appeared to be because of Jackie Battle and Dantrell Savage, two guys fighting for a spot with the team. LJ and Javarris Williams were "meh" at best and I don't even recall Jamaal Charles getting in the game. I noticed Thigpen running for his life and Croyle throwing on the run quite a bit. The offense really sputtered when Cassel was running it. He had Copper and Darling as his starting wideouts though. When Bradley and Bowe came in, things picked up. Cassel had a couple nice completions and it looked like a couple of the others were dropped. Did Toomer or Engram even play?? Defense Didn't seem as though our 2nd team defense put any pressure on the QB and they were able to move the ball down the field easier Didn't hear Tank Tyler's name called more than once (for a tackle) and didn't hear Edwards called at all. How was our play at NT?? Ugh.....for Chrissakes.... Not pretty for our return game. Never saw anyone get past the 23 yard line on a KR or PR and nobody (Savage, Lawrence, Wright) really stood out and distinguished themselves. I noticed a couple drops too which I suppose happens in the rain. Letting Matt Turk rumble for a first down was abysmal. He even fumbled the snap first. Someone clearly missed an assignment on that one... Both Cassel and Croyle fumbled a snap apiece from under center. This led to two turnovers on our side of the field. Oddly enough, Houston didn't appear to have any issues hanging on to the ball though...hmmmm.... Last edited by shammus; 08-15-2009 at 10:22 PM..
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