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Old 09-28-2009, 06:50 AM   Topic Starter
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We are ***OFFICIALLY*** the worst team in the NFL.
The Lions won today. The Raiders beat us in our home opener and couldn't have looked worse today. Who's left?..Bueller....Buelller...Thats right it's us.

Thats the reality. How'd we get from being one of the top teams in 2003 to the worse in 6 years? IMHO,

Talent.

It's obvious to anyone that our problem is talent. We are deficient in talent at just about every position.

Drafting Decisions:
King Carl after Marty left and then Dick Vermiel had horrible drafts that we are paying for now. I had so many King Carl must go threads and rants on here, people were pissed off by the number. King Carl was fired so at least we are moving on.

I'll withhold judgement on Pioli until we see if Cassell and Jackson pan out. Cassell is running for his life. He showed some passion at home last week. That was one beautiful throw to the corner of the end zone. Lots of potential upside. Many a defensive lineman has been just okay in their first few years in the league and then became studs. It's rare that a DL makes a impact right away. So we just have to wait for a final decision on Jackson.

Free Agency decisions.:
Again, King Carl whiffed on so many, it would be impossible to detail all those poor decision here. But, I think we are all in agreement that he sucked the big one in this catagory also.

I don't remember any FA that we let go to another team that could have helped us this off season. Any pickups that could have turned around the team this year. Woudn't have mattered this year. Again, Pioli gets a pass this year from me for FA decisions, but not next year.

I can't blame Haley for this mess. Lombardi and Parcells couldn't make this team a winner with this talent level. Pioli can't make the team a winner in one off season. Maybe Haley can't coach or run a team. but with this serious lack of talent how can we judge him after 3 games that he sucks?

If we don't see a vast effort to improve the talent on the team this off season, then I'll join the chorus of "off with their heads". but for now I'll just suffer on a weekly basis seeing this once proud team reduced to being the worst team in football.
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Old 09-28-2009, 06:52 AM   #2
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Cleveland and Tampa Bay are challenging us for it.
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Old 09-28-2009, 06:54 AM   #3
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Cleveland and Tampa Bay are challenging us for it.
wellll thats something.
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Old 09-28-2009, 07:28 AM   #4
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Old 09-28-2009, 06:56 AM   #5
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and we get the browns at home later in the year, so see there is hope
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and we get the browns at home later in the year, so see there is hope
By then the team will either have come together or Todd Haley will have completely lost them and everyone will be playing like that 2nd half yesterday for the whole game.
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and we get the browns at home later in the year, so see there is hope
For them or us?
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St. Louis hasn't won yet either.
But, sadly, they haven't look as inept as us.
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But, sadly, they haven't look as inept as us.
you shittin' me? They are ****ing horrible.
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It's rare that a DL makes a impact right away. So we just have to wait for a final decision on Jackson.
Well guys like Haley better get it turned around fast because this team is so bad, he's not going to have 3 years to wait for D-linemen to finally come around... If they do.

I'm still baffled by how bad this O-line is and how so many on here were calling for drafting some O-linemen but apparently Pioli decided to go in a different direction.

Next year we'll be saying again "We need to draft at least 2 O-linemen relatively high in the draft"... But will Pioli do it? Don't know.
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Well guys like Haley better get it turned around fast because this team is so bad, he's not going to have 3 years to wait for D-linemen to finally come around... If they do.
I know the argument/point that I make above that it takes a few years to see if a top level DL pick pans out or not was used to justify Sims play. And just about every other 1st/2nd round pick we wasted during the King Carl era.

But, I do agree with your point. Haley doesn't have 3 years to get this turned around so he'd better hope Jackson "gets it" by next year.
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Really only the Browns have looked as inept as us.

Ironically they are also led by another former Patriot assistant..
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