Chiefs It's all about the offensive line.

Chris Meck · 10-25-2009, 05:45 PM

Seriously. We cannot run block. We cannot pass block. We cannot hang on to the ball, so our defense tires and gives up big plays.

No skill position player is going to amount to squat when the line is that bad.

People want to take a safety in the top 3? Really? What good is that going to do? We'll lose by 20 instead of 30, I guess.

This line needs a complete and total overhaul. That's as bad of a line as I've ever seen. A complete abortion.

Waters is just as bad as all the rest at this point in his career, too. the ONLY (kind of maybe) bright spots today were Barry Richardson's mediocre to fair job at LT and Smith at C did fair. The rest have no place on an NFL field.

milkman · 10-25-2009, 05:46 PM

So the defense was tired by the middle of the first quarter?

**Bwana** · 10-25-2009, 05:49 PM

I would say it's a large part of their Issues, but not "ALL."

**Rain Man** · 10-25-2009, 05:49 PM

Yeah, it's hard to judge our RBs and WRs and QB when most of the game is played three yards in our backfield.

Mecca · 10-25-2009, 05:49 PM

Blame the almighty GM for not using any mid round picks on OL when it was a very deep OL draft class.

Simplex3 · 10-25-2009, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Blame the almighty GM for not using any mid round picks on OL when it was a very deep OL draft class.

Yeah, because the Chiefs were solid at every other position.

If you weren't bitching about the OL you'd be bitching about some other position group Pioli "ignored".

**DeezNutz** · 10-25-2009, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Simplex3

Yeah, because the Chiefs were solid at every other position.

If you weren't bitching about the OL you'd be bitching about some other position group Pioli "ignored".

Why are you so adamant about defending Pioli tonight?

Up to this point, it seems pretty undeniable that the dude has orchestrated a pretty impressive cluster ****.

Simplex3 · 10-25-2009, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Why are you so adamant about defending Pioli tonight?

Up to this point, it seems pretty undeniable that the dude has orchestrated a pretty impressive cluster ****.

He took on a team completely devoid of any talent. I'm not saying he's done a great job because the reality is nobody has a clue what he has or hasn't done yet.

**DeezNutz** · 10-25-2009, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Simplex3

He took on a team completely devoid of any talent. I'm not saying he's done a great job because the reality is nobody has a clue what he has or hasn't done yet.

Why can't we analyze his decisions thus far?

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-25-2009, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Simplex3

He took on a team completely devoid of any talent. I'm not saying he's done a great job because the reality is nobody has a clue what he has or hasn't done yet.

A clue?

The team has regressed in each and every statistical category. The top 5 selection has been invisible. The third round choice has been invisible. The 4th round choice has been invisible. The 6th round choice was just cut. The 7th round selection is a joke.

Mike Goff sucks ass. Bobby Engram has been invisible. Zach Thomas couldn't even make the team.

I'm pretty sure I have a clue and that clue is "None".

As in, how may players acquired by Scott Pioli have had a positive impact on the 2009 Chiefs.

milkman · 10-25-2009, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Simplex3

Yeah, because the Chiefs were solid at every other position.

If you weren't bitching about the OL you'd be bitching about some other position group Pioli "ignored".

We talked for months prior to the draft about the deep talent at O-Line that the draft had to offer.

If Pioli had followed the value of that draft, and gone O-Line, rather than spending a top 5 pick, and the third round pick on 5 tech DEs forcing an immediate change to the 34, and gone into this next draft looking for 34 defenders, this team would be better now, and would not have in any way hurt their progress for the future.

Simplex3 · 10-25-2009, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

We talked for months prior to the draft about the deep talent at O-Line that the draft had to offer.

If Pioli had followed the value of that draft, and gone O-Line, rather than spending a top 5 pick, and the third round pick on 5 tech DEs forcing an immediate change to the 34, and gone into this next draft looking for 34 defenders, this team would be better now, and would not have in any way hurt their progress for the future.

Yup. You just KNOW they would be better.

Considering the number of you people that can see the future and can see ALTERNATE futures it's pretty surprising you aren't all rich off the stock market.

milkman · 10-25-2009, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Simplex3

Yup. You just KNOW they would be better.

Considering the number of you people that can see the future and can see ALTERNATE futures it's pretty surprising you aren't all rich off the stock market.

I'm posting an opinion, and you're just being a dishonest ****hole.

chiefzilla1501 · 10-25-2009, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Simplex3

Yup. You just KNOW they would be better.

Considering the number of you people that can see the future and can see ALTERNATE futures it's pretty surprising you aren't all rich off the stock market.

Nobody knows that they'd be better.

But come on, is it rocket science? You invest a 2nd round pick and $60M on a QB. And you have a truckload of tape that says the 3 guys on the right side clearly aren't the answer. As I always say, it's like buying yourself a Porsche with no security or insurance and parking it in the ghetto. If your Porsche gets broken into, it's your dumb fault.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-25-2009, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Simplex3

Yup. You just KNOW they would be better.

Considering the number of you people that can see the future and can see ALTERNATE futures it's pretty surprising you aren't all rich off the stock market.

I think you need to come to grips with the fact that there are people in this forum far more knowledgeable about college players, the draft and the NFL in general than others.

10-25-2009, 05:45 PM	Topic Starter
Chris Meck MVP Join Date: May 2001 Location: midtown KC Casino cash: $-1455090	It's all about the offensive line. Seriously. We cannot run block. We cannot pass block. We cannot hang on to the ball, so our defense tires and gives up big plays. No skill position player is going to amount to squat when the line is that bad. People want to take a safety in the top 3? Really? What good is that going to do? We'll lose by 20 instead of 30, I guess. This line needs a complete and total overhaul. That's as bad of a line as I've ever seen. A complete abortion. Waters is just as bad as all the rest at this point in his career, too. the ONLY (kind of maybe) bright spots today were Barry Richardson's mediocre to fair job at LT and Smith at C did fair. The rest have no place on an NFL field.
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