Football Study: Troy Polamalu worth 11.2 points per game

**cdcox** · 12-30-2009, 12:22 AM

An analysis at the link below shows that the Steelers were 11.2 points per game better when Polumalu was playing compared to the games where a replacement player filled his position.

http://www.advancednflstats.com/2009...plusminus.html

There are some limitations to the study. But let's say he was only worth 6 points per game. That is still eye-popping.

**Rain Man** · 12-30-2009, 12:25 AM

Two Polamalus could beat the Chiefs.

**doomy3** · 12-30-2009, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

Two Polamalus could beat the Chiefs.

**wazu** · 12-30-2009, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

Two Polamalus could beat the Chiefs.

Thread. Over.

**cdcox** · 12-30-2009, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

Two Polamalus could beat the Chiefs.

Throw in 20 guys off the street and I agree.

88TG88 · 12-30-2009, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

Two Polamalus could beat the Chiefs.

**Dave Lane** · 12-30-2009, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

Two Polamalus could beat the Chiefs.

And when Herm was here it would only take one. Cuz you can win with 9 sometimes.

**RealSNR** · 12-30-2009, 12:27 AM

It would be interesting to see some statistical analysis of the 2004 Colts with and without Bob Sanders. The result was pretty much the same.

And people say Eric Berry and other safeties are worthless

**jAZ** · 12-30-2009, 01:32 AM

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It would be interesting to see some statistical analysis of the 2004 Colts with and without Bob Sanders. The result was pretty much the same.

And people say Eric Berry and other safeties are worthless

Well, 2004 was his rookie year. He didn't start much that season. But looking at his full career, most noteably, he's been an inury machine. He's only had 2 seasons where he started double digit games and has been out more than he's been in 47 of 96+ games.

But looking at games he started vs games he didn't:

Started: 16.8 points
Didn't: 17.3 points

Less than 1/2 a point.

By season:

2009
Started: 11.5
Didn't: 14.2

2008
Started: 18.4
Didn't: 19.2

2007
Started: 17.3
Didn't: 14.0

2006
Started: 18.8
Didn't: 22.9

2005
Started: 15.1
Didn't: 20.5

2004
Started: 21.5
Didn't: 21.7

Third Eye · 12-30-2009, 03:03 AM

The "analysis" is flawed to say the very least. Statistically insignificant is probably a better descriptor.

**jAZ** · 12-30-2009, 09:03 AM

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The "analysis" is flawed to say the very least. Statistically insignificant is probably a better descriptor.

Yeah, Bob Sanders has missed just over 1/2 of his 96+ games, so we have some valid data to work with. I didn't look at the TP data, but if you were to cherry pick one season (2005) where BS's absense was dramatic (5 points), it's largely because he only missed 2 games that year. BS had his best seasons in 2005 and 2007 when he was healthy for all but 1 and all but 2 games respectively. Of course in 2005 he was "worth" 5 points and in 2007, he actually "cost" them 3 points.

Frazod · 12-30-2009, 12:28 AM

I don't know if I can ever watch this guy play again without thinking about those godawful Head and Shoulders commercials. Those commercials are so gay they make Richard Simmons look like Chuck Norris. I hope he got paid a truckload of cash for them. Jesus.

**doomy3** · 12-30-2009, 12:42 AM

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I don't know if I can ever watch this guy play again without thinking about those godawful Head and Shoulders commercials. Those commercials are so gay they make Richard Simmons look like Chuck Norris. I hope he got paid a truckload of cash for them. Jesus.

They are horrible. Actually, worse than the TV commercials is the one that they play on sports radio. It is embarrassing.

Frazod · 12-30-2009, 12:45 AM

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They are horrible. Actually, worse than the TV commercials is the one that they play on sports radio. It is embarrassing.

His Michael Jackson-like voice doesn't help, either.

I'll bet he takes all kind of shit over that on the field. I guess he can use it as motivation.

**doomy3** · 12-30-2009, 12:47 AM

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His Michael Jackson-like voice doesn't help, either.

I'll bet he takes all kind of shit over that on the field. I guess he can use it as motivation.

I would hope so. Although, he hasn't been on the field much this year to get shit about it. I'm sure his teammates are relentless about it though.

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