Chiefs Suh over berry if he fell to us?

swayy07 · 12-30-2009, 10:11 AM

just wondering what everyone would do if both where still there when we draft.

id hate spending three years worth of first round draft picks on DL and still suck.

Dante84 · 12-30-2009, 10:15 AM

I'd like to get a DC in place, firmly, before we even make any draft decisions. If it's Crennel, so be it. I don't want to handcuff the DC without getting his solid input, assuming its worth a damn.

BigCatDaddy · 12-30-2009, 10:16 AM

You go with Suh and make it work. You can't mortgage your future because you f'd up in the past.

Extra Point · 12-30-2009, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

You go with Suh and make it work. You can't mortgage your future because you f'd up in the past.

THIS

HC_Chief · 12-30-2009, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

You go with Suh and make it work. You can't mortgage your future because you f'd up in the past.

I wish I could pos rep you twice for this post.

Ralphy Boy · 12-30-2009, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante84

I'd like to get a DC in place, firmly, before we even make any draft decisions. If it's Crennel, so be it. I don't want to handcuff the DC without getting his solid input, assuming its worth a damn.

This seems like a complete waste of a statement. Its not as if you are Haley and are going to offend Romeo.

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

You go with Suh and make it work. You can't mortgage your future because you f'd up in the past.

This is all that needs to be said. You don't pass up Suh's talent, even for Berry. Suh is everything. He is one bad mofo. I heard he was created in a lab by crossing the DNA of Darth Vader, Chuck Norris, Rocky Balboa and Jesus Christ. I could go on but the point is: if you have a chance at him you DO NOT f@ck that up.

Look at Detroit, they drafted an ass load of WR's in the 1st round: Charles Rogers, Mike Williams, Roy Williams, before they finally landed on CJ. Sometimes you just have to admit the mistake and move on. You can't move on if you're still trying to convince yourself that (____ player X) wasn't a mistake and even if they weren't a mistake anyway, you still don't pass up on the best player in the draft if they fall to you.

Deberg_1990 · 12-30-2009, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Ralphy Boy

Sometimes you just have to admit the mistake and move on.

In alot of ways, the Chiefs have never moved on from Blackledge....

Coogs · 12-30-2009, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

In alot of ways, the Chiefs have never moved on from Blackledge....

Word!

swayy07 · 12-30-2009, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Ralphy Boy

Look at Detroit, they drafted an ass load of WR's in the 1st round: Charles Rogers, Mike Williams, Roy Williams, before they finally landed on CJ. Sometimes you just have to admit the mistake and move on. You can't move on if you're still trying to convince yourself that (____ player X) wasn't a mistake and even if they weren't a mistake anyway, you still don't pass up on the best player in the draft if they fall to you.

ok...but its still detroit how many games have they won in the past 5 years? i wouldnt base your argument on drafting another DL on something detroit has done IMO

**Bane** · 12-30-2009, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Ralphy Boy

This seems like a complete waste of a statement. Its not as if you are Haley and are going to offend Romeo.

This is all that needs to be said. You don't pass up Suh's talent, even for Berry. Suh is everything. He is one bad mofo. I heard he was created in a lab by crossing the DNA of Darth Vader, Chuck Norris, Rocky Balboa and Jesus Christ. I could go on but the point is: if you have a chance at him you DO NOT f@ck that up.

Look at Detroit, they drafted an ass load of WR's in the 1st round: Charles Rogers, Mike Williams, Roy Williams, before they finally landed on CJ. Sometimes you just have to admit the mistake and move on. You can't move on if you're still trying to convince yourself that (____ player X) wasn't a mistake and even if they weren't a mistake anyway, you still don't pass up on the best player in the draft if they fall to you.

I can agree totally with not passing on a guy like Suh,but the same argument can be made for Berry.

Micjones · 12-30-2009, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by bane_58

I can agree totally with not passing on a guy like Suh,but the same argument can be made for Berry.

It could but which position is more significant to the overall success of the scheme?

Dante84 · 12-30-2009, 10:16 AM

That being said, our safety position is causing way more damage to our overall defense than any other position. Including the lack of a fat DT.

Deberg_1990 · 12-30-2009, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante84

That being said, our safety position is causing way more damage to our overall defense than any other position. Including the lack of a fat DT.

I thought it was lack of a pass rush?

Dante84 · 12-30-2009, 10:22 AM

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I thought it was lack of a pass rush?

Quality coverage over the middle will allow our CB's to play better; allowing our entire secondary to erase passing options for the opposing QB; making him sit in the pocket longer; leading to more sacks, broken plays, and more interceptions via forced bad throws.

The pass rush will get much better once we have a solid backfield.

Mr. Laz · 12-30-2009, 10:18 AM

i would hope that if Suh and Berry both fell to us we would trade down a draft spot or something and then take Berry.

just don't see how Suh fits on our team unless we go back to a 4-3 or they think that Suh can play nose tackle ala Jay Ratliff for Dallas.

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Dante84 Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: ATX & OPKS Casino cash: $-2038004 VARSITY	I'd like to get a DC in place, firmly, before we even make any draft decisions. If it's Crennel, so be it. I don't want to handcuff the DC without getting his solid input, assuming its worth a damn.
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Dante84 Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: ATX & OPKS Casino cash: $-2038004 VARSITY	That being said, our safety position is causing way more damage to our overall defense than any other position. Including the lack of a fat DT.
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Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	i would hope that if Suh and Berry both fell to us we would trade down a draft spot or something and then take Berry. just don't see how Suh fits on our team unless we go back to a 4-3 or they think that Suh can play nose tackle ala Jay Ratliff for Dallas. __________________
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