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**Saulbadguy** · 07-23-2010, 07:26 AM

I'll give a sizeable rep/casino cash donation to whoever correctly diagnoses my problem. I'm taking it to "the shop" tomorrow.

2005 Ford Escape V6
Turn key, takes a few seconds to start
Makes a "weird" noise when idling, a knocking noise
Drives normally, unless you are stopped, in which it makes previously mentioned noise, and sort of "shakes" a tad bit, like you are tapping on the brakes
ENGINE LIGHT JUST CAME ON. DANGER.

Sofa King · 07-23-2010, 07:29 AM

Something with the Air Conditioner.

EDIT: Actually, i'm serious. i used to have a 95 Neon and an old Lumina. both were fairly high mileage, and both had symtoms like those when the AC unit went out. i doubt i'm right, but it's a guess noone else would have guessed, i'm guessing.

EDIT EDIT: AC Compressor perhaps?

Dinny Bossa Nova · 07-23-2010, 07:33 AM

What color is your car?

Dinny

**Saulbadguy** · 07-23-2010, 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dinny Blues

What color is your car?

Dinny

Red. Kind of a darker red.

Dinny Bossa Nova · 07-23-2010, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

Red. Kind of a darker red.

I see.

If you had a warning light that used the word danger, you should turn it off immediately and have it towed where it needs to go.

It sounds like bad hoo doo or deep doo doo.

Dinny

**Dartgod** · 07-23-2010, 07:33 AM

First in...

It needs a big glass of antifreeze

nstygma · 07-23-2010, 07:45 AM

cylinder misfire

Radar Chief · 07-23-2010, 07:47 AM

Someone put sugar in your gas. /Hogfarmer

**Bwana** · 07-23-2010, 07:48 AM

Do you (or a buddy) have an OBD II reader by any chance. If so, plug it in and pull the fault code(s). It sounds like more than one problem to be honest with you. You may be looking at a failing starter and or a loose connection with the first problem and your lifters or rods may have issues for the second. You could also have a bad spark plug wire, or coil wire for the second. Any chance any water got under any spark plug wires? Did you wash the engine lately, or got through any deep water? Check all your wire connections. How's the oil level?

**bevischief** · 07-23-2010, 07:51 AM

emissons sensor.
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El Jefe · 07-23-2010, 07:58 AM

Muffler bearing, or low blinker fluid /CP.

**Bwana** · 07-23-2010, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcchiefsfanGoJC

Muffler bearing, or low blinker fluid /CP.

Heh

Or the Battery torque modulator.

**TrebMaxx** · 07-23-2010, 08:00 AM

My wife had a 04 Escape with the V-6. Hers had symptoms much like you are describing and we took it to the shop. Turned out to be something really minor that I don't even remember what it was.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-23-2010, 08:03 AM

Probably a bad Fetzer valve.

You're going to need some 3-in-1 oil and some gauze pads.

**HemiEd** · 07-23-2010, 08:10 AM

With so many emissions and computer sensors on these cars, it is very difficult to diagnose without the plug in tool.

Autozone has a simple one, that only detects the most obvious issues, that they will do no charge.

But my guess, it is a throttle position sensor (a wear item), which is giving bad information, to the rest of the system. To me that would be a clue on the hard start, and potential fat/lean issue causing the rough running.

But once again, without the proper diagnostic tools, it is just an educated guess.

07-23-2010, 07:26 AM	Topic Starter
Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $736966	Automotive Problem (HALP) I'll give a sizeable rep/casino cash donation to whoever correctly diagnoses my problem. I'm taking it to "the shop" tomorrow. 2005 Ford Escape V6 Turn key, takes a few seconds to start Makes a "weird" noise when idling, a knocking noise Drives normally, unless you are stopped, in which it makes previously mentioned noise, and sort of "shakes" a tad bit, like you are tapping on the brakes ENGINE LIGHT JUST CAME ON. DANGER.
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07-23-2010, 07:29 AM	#2
Sofa King Bump it Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South Dakota Casino cash: $-390000 VARSITY	Something with the Air Conditioner. EDIT: Actually, i'm serious. i used to have a 95 Neon and an old Lumina. both were fairly high mileage, and both had symtoms like those when the AC unit went out. i doubt i'm right, but it's a guess noone else would have guessed, i'm guessing. EDIT EDIT: AC Compressor perhaps?
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07-23-2010, 07:33 AM	#3
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07-23-2010, 07:48 AM	#9
Bwana It's Five O'Clock Somewhere Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Billings, Montana Casino cash: $2135820532	Do you (or a buddy) have an OBD II reader by any chance. If so, plug it in and pull the fault code(s). It sounds like more than one problem to be honest with you. You may be looking at a failing starter and or a loose connection with the first problem and your lifters or rods may have issues for the second. You could also have a bad spark plug wire, or coil wire for the second. Any chance any water got under any spark plug wires? Did you wash the engine lately, or got through any deep water? Check all your wire connections. How's the oil level?
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07-23-2010, 07:51 AM	#10
bevischief .... Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somewhere Kansas Casino cash: $7729352 VARSITY	emissons sensor. Posted via Mobile Device
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07-23-2010, 07:58 AM	#11
El Jefe Don't tread on me. Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Where the peaches grow Casino cash: $9030572	Muffler bearing, or low blinker fluid /CP.
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07-23-2010, 08:00 AM	#13
TrebMaxx Supporter Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Peoples Republic of CoMo Casino cash: $-2432748	My wife had a 04 Escape with the V-6. Hers had symptoms much like you are describing and we took it to the shop. Turned out to be something really minor that I don't even remember what it was. __________________
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07-23-2010, 08:03 AM	#14
OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $2051115	Probably a bad Fetzer valve. You're going to need some 3-in-1 oil and some gauze pads.
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07-23-2010, 08:10 AM	#15
HemiEd Supporter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ozarks Casino cash: $-519436	With so many emissions and computer sensors on these cars, it is very difficult to diagnose without the plug in tool. Autozone has a simple one, that only detects the most obvious issues, that they will do no charge. But my guess, it is a throttle position sensor (a wear item), which is giving bad information, to the rest of the system. To me that would be a clue on the hard start, and potential fat/lean issue causing the rough running. But once again, without the proper diagnostic tools, it is just an educated guess.
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