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Old 09-23-2010, 08:09 PM   Topic Starter
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Warren Sapp, Derrick Brooks, Ronde Barber
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Ok, they aren't the same caliber of player (yet?). But I heard Holthus mention this today. The way these three are playing so far this year, it has to make you think we have what could be a very good core of a good defense. Nice thought.

FWIW, I think DJ and Flowers are playing at a pro bowl level, and if Dorsey keeps at it he could be in the discussion.
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Old 09-23-2010, 08:10 PM   #2
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Considering that was a 4-3 Tampa 2 why would he even make that comparison?
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Old 09-23-2010, 08:13 PM   #3
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Considering that was a 4-3 Tampa 2 why would he even make that comparison?
Yeah, not really a good comparsion.

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Old 09-23-2010, 08:21 PM   #4
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Considering that was a 4-3 Tampa 2 why would he even make that comparison?
Probably for the same reason people will talk about having the "big 3" on offense, regardless of their system.
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Old 09-23-2010, 08:23 PM   #5
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Probably for the same reason people will talk about having the "big 3" on offense, regardless of their system.
I think that is a little more reasonable than comparing a push rushing DT to a 3-4 end, a roaming Tampa 2 cover backer to an inside 3-4 backer and the CB comparison you can make that one.
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Old 09-23-2010, 08:42 PM   #6
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I think that is a little more reasonable than comparing a push rushing DT to a 3-4 end, a roaming Tampa 2 cover backer to an inside 3-4 backer and the CB comparison you can make that one.
It's a stretch on paper, but Crennel's doing things a bit differently. DJs all over the field and Dorsey's been upfield more than I've ever seen him. Oddly, I might say the Flowers/Barber comparison might be the weakest one, since Barber was purely a zone corner. In any case, I'd guess he was making the comparison in terms to the disruptions they've provided so far rather than their specific role in the scheme.

And I agree with everybody who's sick of the bizarre nicknames and hearing 'put the hammer' down.
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Old 09-24-2010, 09:43 AM   #7
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Probably for the same reason people will talk about having the "big 3" on offense, regardless of their system.
What offensive system in the NFL doesn't work best with stars at QB, RB, and WR?
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Considering that was a 4-3 Tampa 2 why would he even make that comparison?
I don't think the comparison was about how they played their respective positions. It was about a team that had solid young players at all 3 levels of the defense come together around the same time to become the core of a what was an era of great defense for the team.

Obviously it's an optimistic comparison, but the point stands. We have 3 guys who look like they may be coming into something very good. Dorsey's growth is actually on schedule based on the opinions of many experts on the transition of DTs to the NFL. Flowers continues to look better. The only one I'm hesitant to get overly excited about is DJ, because I need to see him play like this for longer before I'm convinced.
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I don't think the comparison was about how they played their respective positions. It was about a team that had solid young players at all 3 levels of the defense come together around the same time to become the core of a what was an era of great defense for the team.

Obviously it's an optimistic comparison, but the point stands. We have 3 guys who look like they may be coming into something very good. Dorsey's growth is actually on schedule based on the opinions of many experts on the transition of DTs to the NFL. Flowers continues to look better. The only one I'm hesitant to get overly excited about is DJ, because I need to see him play like this for longer before I'm convinced.
Would pretty much agree with everything you said there.
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I loath Mitch Holthus. Completely unlistenable outside of a Chiefs broadcast.

Those three players could be huge, though.
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I loath Mitch Holthus. Completely unlistenable outside of a Chiefs broadcast.

Those three players could be huge, though.
Have you heard his little radio show? It is the worst thing I've ever heard. I don't even like listening to him call games now because he's so annoying. When LJ left, I was glad that I never had to hear Mitch call him the centaur again. Now, it's "they put the hammer down".
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Have you heard his little radio show? It is the worst thing I've ever heard. I don't even like listening to him call games now because he's so annoying. When LJ left, I was glad that I never had to hear Mitch call him the centaur again. Now, it's "they put the hammer down".
Thankfully, no. He recently made some delusional comments about Rivers, though, which caused him to lose any semblance of credibility that he might otherwise have. Something to the effect of Rivers being one of the worst QBs in the league.
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