Chiefs Anyone hear Bill Maas yesterday?

bobbything · 10-11-2010, 01:39 PM

I honestly don't think this guy watches the games.

I sat in my car yesterday listening to him go off on people who were bashing Cassel. He was furious because he claimed that the offensive line was the problem, not the QB. When someone called in and said that that offensive line was the same line that was producing the 3rd best rushing attack in the league, he basically said bullsh*t. That if the line were that good then Cassel would be great.

His (almost) exact words were, "If we have the 3rd best rushing attack, then we should have the 2nd or 3rd best passing attack. I could put you (referring to Shaun Sharif (sp)) back there and have success off play action passing."

He then went on to say that the reason we were running screens and reverses is because we have an offensive line that can't block, so we have to go with misdirection to cover up the blemishes.

Aside from the fact that I only remember running one screen yesterday and zero reverses, here we have a former defensive lineman who's absolutely clueless about the offensive line. The 2001-2005 Chiefs teams, with arguably the best O-line in the game at the time, ran basically nothing but screens and misdirection plays.

He might be the biggest Cassel apologist I've heard. Though, he was also the guy that said during training camp that this team would be scoring around 30 points per game and that "they'll need to because the defense is going to be giving up 30 points per game."

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-11-2010, 01:44 PM

Wow. I didnt know Saccopoo had his own show.

**BigRedChief** · 10-11-2010, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BCD

Wow. I didnt know Saccopoo had his own show.

Bill Maas visits the planet from time to time. He has an account here. Had one since 2005.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 10-11-2010, 01:44 PM

He's a coke-addled meathead, why would you take anything that he has to say even remotely seriously?

Ex-players are often the worst sources to go to for a lot of this information. Case in point, John Hannah, who when doing a podcast with Bill Simmons a month ago claimed that the running game was far more sophisticated and difficult to install than the passing game. Granted, he has a point, because if you look at 8 year old football, you see nothing but Air Coryell all over the place, and the vast majorities of high schools don't just run the option or a Power I 90% of the time.

bobbything · 10-11-2010, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

He's a coke-addled meathead, why would you take anything that he has to say even remotely seriously?

I guess I don't take him that seriously, but it's still infuriating to listen to stupidity in the wake of a loss. What made it worse was how pissed he was getting about it. I ended up changing the station when he said the reasons we were running "all those screens and reverses" was to cover up for a poor offensive line.

I wanted so bad to call in and bring up 01-05, but I probably would have gotten into a wreck.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 10-11-2010, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbything

I guess I don't take him that seriously, but it's still infuriating to listen to stupidity in the wake of a loss. What made it worse was how pissed he was getting about it. I ended up changing the station when he said the reasons we were running "all those screens and reverses" was to cover up for a poor offensive line.

I wanted so bad to call in and bring up 01-05, but I probably would have gotten into a wreck.

I feel you. Again, it's another example of how status does not make the opinion invaluable.

"Hey, are you a GM?"

Matt ****ing Millen was a GM, for ****'s sake.

bobbything · 10-11-2010, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I feel you. Again, it's another example of how status does not make the opinion invaluable.

"Hey, are you a GM?"

Matt ****ing Millen was a GM, for ****'s sake.

Quite true.

Which reminds me, Maas kept trying to big-time the callers.

"How much football did you play in your life?? I played a lot and I studied the numbers!!"

KCUnited · 10-11-2010, 01:47 PM

He also said during camp that Croyle would go on to have a successful career as a starter in the NFL once he left KC.

KChiefs1 · 10-11-2010, 01:47 PM

Kietzman & Petro must have been listening to him because they are agreeing with him.

Mecca · 10-11-2010, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1

Kietzman & Petro must have been listening to him because they are agreeing with him.

Ever since 810 got that deal where they do Chiefs stuff they will not critique anything at all.

GloryDayz · 10-11-2010, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Ever since 810 got that deal where they do Chiefs stuff they will not critique anything at all.

Well there you go. There's that, and the fact that he's a pretty unintelligent person. Put the two together and you've got the ingredients for a really bad and uninteresting show. But hey, I'm sure his Mother loves him, so he's got that going for him...

Sure-Oz · 10-11-2010, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Ever since 810 got that deal where they do Chiefs stuff they will not critique anything at all.

Petro pretty much said earlier that Cassel is at best Delhomme and he isnt a franchise QB

Mecca · 10-11-2010, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

Petro pretty much said earlier that Cassel is at best Delhomme and he isnt a franchise QB

Which he followed by saying he was perfectly fine with that.

bobbything · 10-11-2010, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Which he followed by saying he was perfectly fine with that.

This is the problem.

You don't pay a QB that kind of money, and trade away a high draft pick, unless you're convinced he's the guy to build your team around. You can pay Rex Grossman, or Todd Collins, $1 mil to simply "not screw up" for a few seasons. But that's not what they acquired Cassel for. They got him to be a franchise QB. Now, everyone's realizing that he's not a franchise QB. This is an indictment on Pioli. And true to revisionists history, people in the local media are justifying his performance with comments such as, "He is what he is."

Yeah, he's an inaccurate QB who get's paid $10 million per year to hand the ball off to Jamaal Charles, and not throw interceptions.

Hell, I remember when Pioli first got here and was extremely stand-offish with the media. Kietzman defended him when the Cassel trade surfaced by saying (something to the effect of), "I understand now why they've been so secretive. They made the biggest trade in the history of the franchise."

Now, I take most of what he says with a grain of salt. However, I think many people felt sort of this way. That we had made a huge acquisition that would eventually propel this team to the next level.

Now, we have fans and the media hoping for Trent Dilfer, or Jake Delhomme. It's depressing.

This season, if he's ends up being Trent Dilfer, fine. But we better cut his ass the second we lose in the first round to the Jets because he went 1 for 7 on 3rd down.

**BigRedChief** · 10-11-2010, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Ever since 810 got that deal where they do Chiefs stuff they will not critique anything at all.

thats part of the deal you make when you sell yourself to the Chiefs.

10-11-2010, 01:39 PM	Topic Starter
bobbything Distributor of Pain Join Date: Nov 2004 Casino cash: $8644900	Anyone hear Bill Maas yesterday? I honestly don't think this guy watches the games. I sat in my car yesterday listening to him go off on people who were bashing Cassel. He was furious because he claimed that the offensive line was the problem, not the QB. When someone called in and said that that offensive line was the same line that was producing the 3rd best rushing attack in the league, he basically said bullsht. That if the line were that good then Cassel would be great. His (almost) exact words were, "If we have the 3rd best rushing attack, then we should have the 2nd or 3rd best passing attack. I could put you (referring to Shaun Sharif (sp)) back there and have success off play action passing." He then went on to say that the reason we were running screens and reverses is because we have an offensive line that can't block, so we have to go with misdirection to cover up the blemishes. Aside from the fact that I only remember running one screen yesterday and zero reverses, here we have a former defensive lineman who's absolutely clueless about the offensive line. The 2001-2005 Chiefs teams, with arguably the best O-line in the game at the time, ran basically nothing but screens and misdirection plays*. He might be the biggest Cassel apologist I've heard. Though, he was also the guy that said during training camp that this team would be scoring around 30 points per game and that "they'll need to because the defense is going to be giving up 30 points per game."
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