Chiefs Very telling quote from Pioli on Charles' future with the Chiefs

Quesadilla Joe · 10-30-2010, 03:14 AM

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vau...95/3/index.htm

Each season from 2003 to '06, a different back led the Broncos in rushing, and each gained at least 1,000 yards. That established the economic blueprint for managing the position: A team can succeed, sometimes even win the Super Bowl, without a great running back, provided there is ample talent at quarterback and offensive line. Hence management will economize at the position, moving out highly paid, established backs in favor of cheaper up-and-comers or journeymen.

"I am of that mind-set," says Chiefs general manager Scott Pioli, who came over from Bill Belichick's Patriots regime in 2009. "That special guy [Payton, Smith, Dickerson] has always been rare. Generally speaking, you need a good season out of the position. In New England, Antowain Smith was not a great back, but he had a great season [rushing for 1,157 yards in 2001, a Super Bowl--winning year]. Corey Dillon was not a great back, but he had a great season [1,635 yards in 2004, another Super Bowl year]."

It is also a guessing game. Every running back comes stamped with an unknown expiration date. "You don't know how many times they've been hit in high school, hit in college," says Pioli. "Or how well they've taken care of themselves."

Shanahan, who orchestrated the revolving door of rushers at Denver in the early 2000s, says, "There are places on the field where you need a great player. I don't think running back is one of them. I look for overachievers."

Fritz88 · 10-30-2010, 03:23 AM

Haley will NOT let go of JC.
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Hog's Gone Fishin · 10-30-2010, 04:11 AM

I guess McDaniels has that same philisophy at every position.

WhitiE · 10-30-2010, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

I guess McDaniels has that same philisophy at every position.

ahahaha

runnercyclist · 10-30-2010, 04:11 AM

As much as I like Charles, I agree with this philosophy.

**BigRedChief** · 10-30-2010, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by runnercyclist

As much as I like Charles, I agree with this philosophy.

How many times has giving a RB a 2nd big money contract worked out for a team? It's rare.

Too big a gamble. I like charles also but historically its a bad move to give a RB their 2nd contract in the NFL.

NaptownChief · 10-30-2010, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

How many times has giving a RB a 2nd big money contract worked out for a team? It's rare.

Too big a gamble. I like charles also but historically its a bad move to give a RB their 2nd contract in the NFL.

Agreed....The top athletes in high school and college usually want to play RB. So their is an abundance of talent at RB. There are back up RB's at Texas, Florida, USC and the such that are talented enough to be productive NFL starting backs on a good team with a solid Oline. And then throw in the fact that RB's take far more hits than anyone else on the field so their shelf life is very short. Wise to spend that money on the Oline that can play much longer and have the ability to make a lot of RB's look very good.

LaChapelle · 10-30-2010, 04:19 AM

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kcxiv · 10-30-2010, 04:23 AM

i agree with it, but he wasnt a starter in college was he? He hasnt taken all that many huge hits. He's been hit though, but he's young, its not like he's LJ and was 28 years old already.

bsp4444 · 10-30-2010, 04:29 AM

I suppose finding a Thomas Jones sort of backs up this theory.

CupidStunt · 10-30-2010, 05:31 AM

You can only pray that Charles finds his way out of the division.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-30-2010, 05:33 AM

KnowMo; being a Donko homer is what you're good at. Grasping for straws in hopes that Pioli will go Full-McFistingMyself makes you look rather small and possibly butt-hurt.

Elevate your game, man; get back on track!

Quesadilla Joe · 10-30-2010, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ROR

KnowMo; being a Donko homer is what you're good at. Grasping for straws in hopes that Pioli will go Full-McFistingMyself makes you look rather small and possibly butt-hurt.

Elevate your game, man; get back on track!

I just found something that I figured a Chiefs fan would want to read. I couldn't care less what happens with Charles.

**Bane** · 10-30-2010, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

I just found something that I figured a Chiefs fan would want to read. I couldn't care less what happens with Charles.

You should you stupid cock sucker seeing as he schools your D like bitches.You're a real piece of shit you know it?**** you and all of you're lil nut huggers you have here.

Hootie · 10-30-2010, 06:18 AM

Meh.

At least Charles was a 3rd round pick...

I guess you guys wasted a 12 overall on Knowshon...since I'm sure McDaniels has the same school of thought...right?

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Quesadilla Joe Abolish The Salary Cap! Join Date: Mar 2008 Casino cash: $3408675	Very telling quote from Pioli on Charles' future with the Chiefs http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vau...95/3/index.htm Each season from 2003 to '06, a different back led the Broncos in rushing, and each gained at least 1,000 yards. That established the economic blueprint for managing the position: A team can succeed, sometimes even win the Super Bowl, without a great running back, provided there is ample talent at quarterback and offensive line. Hence management will economize at the position, moving out highly paid, established backs in favor of cheaper up-and-comers or journeymen. "I am of that mind-set," says Chiefs general manager Scott Pioli, who came over from Bill Belichick's Patriots regime in 2009. "That special guy [Payton, Smith, Dickerson] has always been rare. Generally speaking, you need a good season out of the position. In New England, Antowain Smith was not a great back, but he had a great season [rushing for 1,157 yards in 2001, a Super Bowl--winning year]. Corey Dillon was not a great back, but he had a great season [1,635 yards in 2004, another Super Bowl year]." It is also a guessing game. Every running back comes stamped with an unknown expiration date. "You don't know how many times they've been hit in high school, hit in college," says Pioli. "Or how well they've taken care of themselves." Shanahan, who orchestrated the revolving door of rushers at Denver in the early 2000s, says, "There are places on the field where you need a great player. I don't think running back is one of them. I look for overachievers."
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