Chiefs Chiefs buzz: Croyle lacking game action

**Tribal Warfare** · 12-10-2010, 02:02 AM

Chiefs buzz: Croyle lacking game action

Practice isn’t like a game

Quarterback Brodie Croyle hasn’t played in a game since the preseason and now will probably start Sunday’s game against the Chargers in place of Matt Cassel. As much practice as the Chiefs give Croyle — it’s a considerable amount this week, but normally not much — practice isn’t the same as a game because it’s conducted at a much slower speed.

The Chiefs in recent weeks had several chances to get Croyle playing time. They fell hopelessly behind the Broncos in Denver a month ago and since then held sizable leads against the Cardinals and Seahawks in the fourth quarter.

In each case, coach Todd Haley kept Cassel in the game.

“With where you are in some of those games, you’re not going to be throwing the football,” Haley said. “I don’t know that you’re not getting some of the same things in practice.”

Cassel didn’t practice again Thursday after having an appendectomy a day earlier. Unless the Chiefs break one of Haley’s rules, Cassel would have to practice today to play in San Diego.

“The policy is you have to have some semblance of practice,” Haley said. “We’ll see as the week plays out exactly where we are. Right now we’ve got two days under our belt, and we’ve got two more left.”

Getting the ball to Bowe

The Chiefs failed to get the ball to wide receiver Dwayne Bowe in last week’s game against Denver, and it’s probably no coincidence they scored only 10 points in beating the Broncos. The Chargers undoubtedly took note of the connection and will probably make a similar effort to take Bowe out of the game.

“That can’t be something that we allow to happen one way or another,” Haley said. “It’s our job as coaches to find ways to help the receivers. It’s the receiver’s duty to continue to step his game up against the competition and make plays. That’s what I fully expect from Dwayne. He’s trying to continue to make steps to being a really good player in the league, and this is the next step for him, going against really good competition that knows he’s one of the guys that gets the football a bunch.”

Wiegmann can relate

Center Casey Wiegmann missed the final exhibition game and the regular-season opener in 2001 after having an appendectomy in a procedure similar to Cassel’s.

“It took me a couple of weeks,” Wiegmann said. “They didn’t want to rush me back too fast. I could have played in one week, but they just didn’t want to risk it for the rest of the year.”

Injury report

The Chiefs made one change to their practice report. They said reserve defensive back Donald Washington (ankle) was limited in practice. He didn’t practice the day before.

Safety Kendrick Lewis (ankle) was also limited. Cassel was the only other player listed, and he didn’t practice because of what the Chiefs continued to call an illness.

Direckshun · 12-10-2010, 02:13 AM

I think the primary thing you can take advantage of is his amazing arm strength. Send some go routes early on, soften up that defense, and then pound the rock.

Pushead2 · 12-10-2010, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

I think the primary thing you can take advantage of is his amazing arm strength. Send some go routes early on, soften up that defense, and then pound the rock.

all for it.....let those Safeties respect what he can do....even if it's a direct throw deep & out of bounds. Let them know we won't treat him like a backup. Because if the Chiefs will, you know the Chargers will

**HemiEd** · 12-10-2010, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

I think the primary thing you can take advantage of is his amazing arm strength. Send some go routes early on, soften up that defense, and then pound the rock.

Hopefully Weiss reads the Planet, so he will know to do this.

jd1020 · 12-10-2010, 03:51 AM

I can't believe how much little faith people have in Croyle. Ya he hasn't won a game. He also played on a team that was fighting for the #1 draft pick. He didn't have a #1 running game to hide behind. Are you guys so nervous because you dont think Croyle can hand the ball off to Jones or Charles or throw the typical 5 yard slants, dump offs, or screen passes that Weis asks of Cassel. Give me a break. The guy can do what Cassel does + some things Cassel cant.

**TimeForWasp** · 12-10-2010, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

I can't believe how much little faith people have in Croyle. Ya he hasn't won a game. He also played on a team that was fighting for the #1 draft pick. He didn't have a #1 running game to hide behind. Are you guys so nervous because you dont think Croyle can hand the ball off to Jones or Charles or throw the typical 5 yard slants, dump offs, or screen passes that Weis asks of Cassel. Give me a break. The guy can do what Cassel does + some things Cassel cant.

I'm with ya

**Bwana** · 12-10-2010, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

I can't believe how much little faith people have in Croyle. Ya he hasn't won a game. He also played on a team that was fighting for the #1 draft pick. He didn't have a #1 running game to hide behind. Are you guys so nervous because you dont think Croyle can hand the ball off to Jones or Charles or throw the typical 5 yard slants, dump offs, or screen passes that Weis asks of Cassel. Give me a break. The guy can do what Cassel does + some things Cassel cant.

Except perhaps take a hit.......

That's one thing you have to give Cassel, he's a tough son of a bitch and can take a shot.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 12-10-2010, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

I can't believe how much little faith people have in Croyle. Ya he hasn't won a game. He also played on a team that was fighting for the #1 draft pick. He didn't have a #1 running game to hide behind. Are you guys so nervous because you dont think Croyle can hand the ball off to Jones or Charles or throw the typical 5 yard slants, dump offs, or screen passes that Weis asks of Cassel. Give me a break. The guy can do what Cassel does + some things Cassel cant.

You are right. And as the week has gone by I've become more and more excited about Croyle playing.

Color Red · 12-10-2010, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

I can't believe how much little faith people have in Croyle. Ya he hasn't won a game. He also played on a team that was fighting for the #1 draft pick. He didn't have a #1 running game to hide behind. Are you guys so nervous because you dont think Croyle can hand the ball off to Jones or Charles or throw the typical 5 yard slants, dump offs, or screen passes that Weis asks of Cassel. Give me a break. The guy can do what Cassel does + some things Cassel cant.

True. True. What would be interesting to see is if Croyle is able to put down his gunslinger mantle and fit into the ball control, "careful" philosophy that Cassell has played with.

Pants · 12-10-2010, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Color Red

True. True. What would be interesting to see is if Croyle is able to put down his gunslinger mantle and fit into the ball control, "careful" philosophy that Cassell has played with.

Cassel had a tight leash on him and even still he was throwing the ball into the ground or over the head of receivers 5 yards away from him. But hey, at least he didn't turn it over.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 12-10-2010, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Hopefully Weiss reads the Planet, so he will know to do this.

Agreed. It's time for "Mr. Bubble" to go in to hiding, and for "Charlie Super Bowl" to open up the damned passing game a bit.

Bubbles are for reeruns who blow spit bubbles on the bus. ENOUGH.

**Bwana** · 12-10-2010, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Hopefully Weiss reads the Planet, so he will know to do this.

Nice

Red Dawg · 12-10-2010, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Hopefully Weiss reads the Planet, so he will know to do this.

He should. If he did we would never have to punt.

Reerun_KC · 12-10-2010, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

I think the primary thing you can take advantage of is his amazing arm strength. Send some go routes early on, soften up that defense, and then pound the rock.

Especially on 3rd down. With Croyles nack for serious accuracy, if we use his amazing arm strength, we can take some of the wear off of Colquit...

Marcellus · 12-10-2010, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Especially on 3rd down. With Croyles nack for serious accuracy, if we use his amazing arm strength, we can take some of the wear off of Colquit...

Why do people believe this to be true? Is it because people just want something to be true so they will it to be true?

Croyle has never shown himself to be more accurate than Cassel. He may have a cannon arm but he doesn't control it very well.

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Tribal Warfare Man of Culture Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Far Beyond Comprehension Casino cash: $-3007187	Chiefs buzz: Croyle lacking game action Chiefs buzz: Croyle lacking game action Practice isn’t like a game Quarterback Brodie Croyle hasn’t played in a game since the preseason and now will probably start Sunday’s game against the Chargers in place of Matt Cassel. As much practice as the Chiefs give Croyle — it’s a considerable amount this week, but normally not much — practice isn’t the same as a game because it’s conducted at a much slower speed. The Chiefs in recent weeks had several chances to get Croyle playing time. They fell hopelessly behind the Broncos in Denver a month ago and since then held sizable leads against the Cardinals and Seahawks in the fourth quarter. In each case, coach Todd Haley kept Cassel in the game. “With where you are in some of those games, you’re not going to be throwing the football,” Haley said. “I don’t know that you’re not getting some of the same things in practice.” Cassel didn’t practice again Thursday after having an appendectomy a day earlier. Unless the Chiefs break one of Haley’s rules, Cassel would have to practice today to play in San Diego. “The policy is you have to have some semblance of practice,” Haley said. “We’ll see as the week plays out exactly where we are. Right now we’ve got two days under our belt, and we’ve got two more left.” Getting the ball to Bowe The Chiefs failed to get the ball to wide receiver Dwayne Bowe in last week’s game against Denver, and it’s probably no coincidence they scored only 10 points in beating the Broncos. The Chargers undoubtedly took note of the connection and will probably make a similar effort to take Bowe out of the game. “That can’t be something that we allow to happen one way or another,” Haley said. “It’s our job as coaches to find ways to help the receivers. It’s the receiver’s duty to continue to step his game up against the competition and make plays. That’s what I fully expect from Dwayne. He’s trying to continue to make steps to being a really good player in the league, and this is the next step for him, going against really good competition that knows he’s one of the guys that gets the football a bunch.” Wiegmann can relate Center Casey Wiegmann missed the final exhibition game and the regular-season opener in 2001 after having an appendectomy in a procedure similar to Cassel’s. “It took me a couple of weeks,” Wiegmann said. “They didn’t want to rush me back too fast. I could have played in one week, but they just didn’t want to risk it for the rest of the year.” Injury report The Chiefs made one change to their practice report. They said reserve defensive back Donald Washington (ankle) was limited in practice. He didn’t practice the day before. Safety Kendrick Lewis (ankle) was also limited. Cassel was the only other player listed, and he didn’t practice because of what the Chiefs continued to call an illness.
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jd1020 In Search of a Life Join Date: Nov 2010 Casino cash: $6922645	I can't believe how much little faith people have in Croyle. Ya he hasn't won a game. He also played on a team that was fighting for the #1 draft pick. He didn't have a #1 running game to hide behind. Are you guys so nervous because you dont think Croyle can hand the ball off to Jones or Charles or throw the typical 5 yard slants, dump offs, or screen passes that Weis asks of Cassel. Give me a break. The guy can do what Cassel does + some things Cassel cant.
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