Haley going to run conservative Offense

[chiefforlife]

Matt Cassel - QB - Chiefs

Chiefs HC Todd Haley wants to run "a meat and potatoes offense" in 2011.
That's good news for Jamaal Charles' fantasy stock, and bad news for Matt Cassel's. Former OC Charlie Weis reportedly left because he wanted "to use a lot of shotgun and spread formations while jazzing up the offense," while Haley wanted to remain conservative. After it became public that Weis was leaving last season, Cassel posted a 0:5 TD-to-INT ratio in two games.
Related: Jamaal Charles
Source: National Football Post
Feb 13, 9:48:00 AM

[dj56dt58]

yay Herm ball..fml

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Not Good !

[Dave Lane]

His version of conservative and Herms are light years apart.

[The Bad Guy]

Weis's offense lead to Cassel's best year. The meat and potatoes approach led to a shit offense in 2009. It just doesn't make any sense to me.

[kcchiefsus]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Weis's offense lead to Cassel's best year. The meat and potatoes approach led to a shit offense in 2009. It just doesn't make any sense to me.

Umm, you don't think there were other factors that led to 2009?

- Larry Johnson
- Mike Goff, Rudy Niswanger
- No Tony Gonzalez or Tony Moeaki at TE

But your right, none of that had any effect.

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by kcchiefsus

Umm, you don't think there were other factors that led to 2009?

- Larry Johnson
- Mike Goff, Rudy Niswanger
- No Tony Gonzalez or Tony Moeaki at TE

But your right, none of that had any effect.

also forget the most glaring: Clancy Shittergast running the defense

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by kcchiefsus

Umm, you don't think there were other factors that led to 2009?

- Larry Johnson
- Mike Goff, Rudy Niswanger
- No Tony Gonzalez or Tony Moeaki at TE

But your right, none of that had any effect.

-Jamaal Charles played a substancial amount down the stretch and Cassel's numbers got WORSE.

But you're right, let's pretend like 2009 was a throw-away year and not be able to analyze anything.

**** yourself.

[jd1020]

I want Cassel's job.

$12mil to hand the ball off? Yes please.

I love the idea of paying someone a bonus while inadvertently admitting they suck.

[FringeNC]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

-Jamaal Charles played a substancial amount down the stretch and Cassel's numbers got WORSE.

But you're right, let's pretend like 2009 was a throw-away year and not be able to analyze anything.

**** yourself.

Did Cassel really play worse? His QB rating was worse, but primarily because Haley actually had Cassel throwing downfield, and he through some picks. But overall offensively, pre-bye, our offense was a joke. Post-bye, it was probably close to NFL-average. 2 of the last 3 games we had 490 yards or more.

My guess is Haley doesn't think we have the WRs to spread the field. ****ers can't get open, so may as well keep them in to block.

Look, nothing in Haley's bio suggests that we are going to see Herm II. Everything in Herm's bio and rhetoric suggested he did plan to play not-to-lose. Ironically, Herm was given the benefit of the doubt, and no one thought he would mess with the offense....whereas with Haley, the opposite seems to be true.

I think our offense will be better next year, but it will be hard to compare, given we are moving from essentially the easiest schedule the NFL to the hardest. If Haley sucks as an offensive coach, get rid of his ass, because that is what he is supposed to bring to the table. Haley will earn his paycheck next year or get fired.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by FringeNC

Did Cassel really play worse? His QB rating was worse, but primarily because Haley actually had Cassel throwing downfield, and he through some picks. But overall offensively, pre-bye, our offense was a joke. Post-bye, it was probably close to NFL-average. 2 of the last 3 games we had 490 yards or more.

My guess is Haley doesn't think we have the WRs to spread the field. ****ers can't get open, so may as well keep them in to block.

Look, nothing in Haley's bio suggests that we are going to see Herm II. Everything in Herm's bio and rhetoric suggested he did plan to play not-to-lose. Ironically, Herm was given the benefit of the doubt, and no one thought he would mess with the offense....whereas with Haley, the opposite seems to be true.

I think our offense will be better next year, but it will be hard to compare, given we are moving from essentially the easiest schedule the NFL to the hardest. If Haley sucks as an offensive coach, get rid of his ass, because that is what he is supposed to bring to the table. Haley will earn his paycheck next year or get fired.

There's a huge, huge red flag if we are talking about our QB and saying interceptions were a product of throwing downfield.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by FringeNC

Did Cassel really play worse?

If you have to ask this question, you either didn't watch the games or don't know what you're watching.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by FringeNC

Did Cassel really play worse? His QB rating was worse, but primarily because Haley actually had Cassel throwing downfield, and he through some picks. But overall offensively, pre-bye, our offense was a joke. Post-bye, it was probably close to NFL-average. 2 of the last 3 games we had 490 yards or more.

My guess is Haley doesn't think we have the WRs to spread the field. ****ers can't get open, so may as well keep them in to block.

Look, nothing in Haley's bio suggests that we are going to see Herm II. Everything in Herm's bio and rhetoric suggested he did plan to play not-to-lose. Ironically, Herm was given the benefit of the doubt, and no one thought he would mess with the offense....whereas with Haley, the opposite seems to be true.

I think our offense will be better next year, but it will be hard to compare, given we are moving from essentially the easiest schedule the NFL to the hardest. If Haley sucks as an offensive coach, get rid of his ass, because that is what he is supposed to bring to the table. Haley will earn his paycheck next year or get fired.

Unfortunately, our best formula for success is to pound the ball with the run and soften the defense so Cassel can throw. Until he proves otherwise.

Even if we bring in a marquee receiver, I would think the same thing, except maybe a tad bit more pass friendly. I don't see a problem with a more conservative offense if Cassel is our QB.

[milkman]

I really find this difficult to believe, since Haley ran a lot of spread in Arizona, and Weis made his money as the Patriot OC by sticking to the run game even when they had marginal success.

The only thing that might lend this credibility is if that Haley believes that Cassel is the weak link and he believes that limiting Cassel and running the ball gives him the best chance to succeed.

[chiefforlife]

Originally Posted by milkman

I really find this difficult to believe, since Haley ran a lot of spread in Arizona, and Weis made his money as the Patriot OC by sticking to the run game even when they had marginal success.

The only thing that might lend this credibility is if that Haley believes that Cassel is the weak link and he believes that limiting Cassel and running the ball gives him the best chance to succeed.

This was my first thought, he has no confidence in Cassel.