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11-23-2011, 08:58 PM | Topic Starter |
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Cassel VS Orton
Orton in his two years in our offense-
62.1% 3,802 yards 21 TD 12 INT 86.8 Rating 7.0 YPA 58.8% 3,653 yards 20 TD 9 INT 87.5 Rating 7.3 YPA Cassel those same last two years in the same system with better cast- 55.0% 2,924 yards 16 TD 16 INT 69.9 Rating 5.93 YPA 58.2% 3,116 yards 27 TD 7 INT 93.0 Rating 6.92 YPA |
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11-23-2011, 09:01 PM | #2 |
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Orton threw the ball downfield a lot at Denver.
If we continue to throw a lot of 3-5 outs and swing passes, Haley and Muir need to get the **** out of KC. |
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11-23-2011, 09:03 PM | #3 |
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I bet Haley is loving the idea of finally having a QB that can throw deep to his boys Bowe, Baldwin, and Breaston.
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11-23-2011, 09:44 PM | #4 |
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11-23-2011, 09:04 PM | #6 | |
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11-23-2011, 09:35 PM | #7 | |
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Imo, it all comes down to the Offensive line. I've seen this time after time this season where the QB drops back deep in the pocket and doesn't even have time to survey the field. Or sometimes even set his feet. Even though Im not a fan of the short passing game, I will admit, I don't think the Chiefs have the Offensive line to have downfield passing game. It's impossible to have a downfield passing game when your line can't hold up and block for sh*t. In that sense, I can kinda understand the short passing game at times. And I can kinda understand why they shy away from the downfield passing game. This is no intent to stick up for Haley and Muir. Im just pinpointing that they shouldn't be the only ones to blame. The Oline sucks bro. |
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11-23-2011, 09:38 PM | #8 | |
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If we are a legitimate threat to beat the defense deep, the offensive line will magically improve. No more stacking the box or bringing blitzes. I don't think Orton can do it, but he has a lot more capability than Cassel. |
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11-23-2011, 09:46 PM | #9 | |
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Cassel had a ton of open deep passes. He just threw the ball 15 yards away from the receiver. And Palko had a lot of time to throw the ball. This offensive line isn't bad. Again, they look horrendous because Cassel never, ever, ever adjusts his blockers to stop the blitz. Palko did and it made a huge difference. |
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One of the many 500 pound gorillas in the room is the fact that Miami showed the entire league how to beat a Cassel-led Chiefs offense to a pulp. Enemy defenses used to crowd the LOS, but from this point forward, it was going to be blitz early and often because we offer no deep threat whatsoever and our quarterback panics at the snap. And, on top of observing our run game continue to suffer (including our fabulous draws to The Mighty McDervish), seeing our short passing game remain a toothless hag, and helplessly watching as we complete screens to enemy players, we were going to let this receiving corp go completely to waste because we cannot hit them in stride or elsewise. But no more!!! We are free!!! Ring the bell! Hoist the colors! Raise the glass! Flag the limo!! And pinch the waitress on the tittahs!! For we have found a way to fling it deep!!! FAX |
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11-23-2011, 10:44 PM | #12 |
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didn't neckbeard throw for like 4K 2 years ago?
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11-23-2011, 09:29 PM | #13 |
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I wonder exactly how similar McDouches offense is to ours.. They have the same original base, but obviously coaches add their own tweaks to it. If theres a lot of the same terminology, he could step in pretty soon and start.
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11-24-2011, 12:41 AM | #14 |
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E-P is very dynamic. You can really do anything with it, adjust it to where your strengths are. I'd say there is a very good possibility that Orton just needs to develop timing with his receivers and he'll be fine.
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11-23-2011, 09:51 PM | #15 |
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Ive definitely seen Orton throw to an open man that wasnt his #1 reciever 15 yards down the field.
Cassel, not so much
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