Chiefs 2012 Season

O.city · 12-01-2011, 10:12 PM

Say the Chiefs go on to lose out which is very much a possibilty. Finish the season with a top 7 pick and select Matt Barkley from USC to play QB.

Do you start him right away?

If so, what kind of expectations should we have next year?

Now say the Chiefs were to pick RGIII instead. What would you do with him in reference to the above questions?

Discuss.

KCrockaholic · 12-01-2011, 10:13 PM

Start either one right away from day 1.

I'd still expect 10-6 next year IF this QB we take is actually worth a crap.

If we had Luck we'd go 11-5. Guaranteed.

**RealSNR** · 12-01-2011, 10:14 PM

**lewdog** · 12-01-2011, 10:16 PM

Barkley will be much more ready to play and could start if he puts in work during the offseason. I feel Barkley will have a decent grasp of a pro offense.

RGIII is more of a project and would take much more time to be ready to play. I wouldn't see him playing in his first season if he was drafted.

RGIII has a higher upside or possible peak play but also a greater probability to be a bust.

Just my opinion.

Chief_For_Life58 · 12-01-2011, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog_5

Barkley will be much more ready to play and could start if he puts in work during the offseason. I feel Barkley will have a decent grasp of a pro offense.

RGIII is more of a project and would take much more time to be ready to play. I wouldn't see him playing in his first season if he was drafted.

RGIII has a higher upside or possible peak play but also a greater probability to be a bust.

Just my opinion.

Why would rg3 be more of a project? both are projects theyre rookie qbs starting first game...rg3 could learn our system just as fast if NOT FASTER. dude is just as much a beast on the football field as in the classroom. no homo

**lewdog** · 12-01-2011, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief_For_Life58

Why would rg3 be more of a project? both are projects theyre rookie qbs starting first game...rg3 could learn our system just as fast if NOT FASTER. dude is just as much a beast on the football field as in the classroom. no homo

He is more of a project because he doesn't fit our current system. He will have to be coached to make different reads in this offense since it is more different than the offense that Barkley runs.

However, I would rather have RGIII because he brings more excitement and has more of an upside. Barkley is a safer pick but has a lower ceiling.

O.city · 12-01-2011, 10:18 PM

I'm starting to lean more towards Barkely for the pro style argument sake. RGIII is a little more of a project.

Urc Burry · 12-01-2011, 10:26 PM

Barkley will likely be the #2 QB taken, and the odds of us finishing with a higher pick then both the redskins and dolphins isn't too likely. Barkley is the safer bet, but RG3 has a much higher ceiling to me.

NJChiefsFan · 12-01-2011, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Urc Burry

Barkley will likely be the #2 QB taken, and the odds of us finishing with a higher pick then both the redskins and dolphins isn't too likely. Barkley is the safer bet, but RG3 has a much higher ceiling to me.

The Redskins can still win another game or two and could get to 6 wins. Dolphins have a pretty damn hard schedule but they do always play the AFC East tough. Who knows. Even if we do finish ahead of them either one of them could trade up.

I agree with you though, that odds are we won't have an option. We might be lucky to have either one of them there when we pick. I can see Pioli using the "well if Barkley was there I would have" excuse.

Urc Burry · 12-01-2011, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

The Redskins can still win another game or two and could get to 6 wins. Dolphins have a pretty damn hard schedule but they do always play the AFC East tough. Who knows. Even if we do finish ahead of them either one of them could trade up.

I agree with you though, that odds are we won't have an option. We might be lucky to have either one of them there when we pick. I can see Pioli using the "well if Barkley was there I would have" excuse.

Yeah the dolphins are playing good ball right now, I think they can squeak one out against the raiders this week. And I believe we would have the earlier pick then them with SOS. But I still think we win at least 1 more game

NJChiefsFan · 12-01-2011, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Urc Burry

Yeah the dolphins are playing good ball right now, I think they can squeak one out against the raiders this week. And I believe we would have the earlier pick then them with SOS. But I still think we win at least 1 more game

I am not sure we win the SOS with anyone.

Urc Burry · 12-01-2011, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

I am not sure we win the SOS with anyone.

As of last week the dolphins were a .517 and we were .446. I realize we still have a tough stretch but that's a pretty big gap

evolve27 · 12-01-2011, 10:36 PM

Either Barkley or RG3 you start year two, get rid of Zorn and coach them up. Let's just hope we don't draft a late round project QB from who gives a ****...

O.city · 12-01-2011, 10:38 PM

I think Barkley is a day 1 guy.

RGIII maybe year two.

I'd also like to keep Zorn around.

evolve27 · 12-01-2011, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I think Barkley is a day 1 guy.

RGIII maybe year two.

I'd also like to keep Zorn around.

My feeling is the Aaron Rodgers effect of having them sit on the bench for a year or so. I'd love to see them immediately but who knows if they are ready.

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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $1544064	2012 Season Say the Chiefs go on to lose out which is very much a possibilty. Finish the season with a top 7 pick and select Matt Barkley from USC to play QB. Do you start him right away? If so, what kind of expectations should we have next year? Now say the Chiefs were to pick RGIII instead. What would you do with him in reference to the above questions? Discuss.
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12-01-2011, 10:16 PM	#4
lewdog Mod Team Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Valley of the hot as **** Casino cash: $431900	Barkley will be much more ready to play and could start if he puts in work during the offseason. I feel Barkley will have a decent grasp of a pro offense. RGIII is more of a project and would take much more time to be ready to play. I wouldn't see him playing in his first season if he was drafted. RGIII has a higher upside or possible peak play but also a greater probability to be a bust. Just my opinion.
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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $1544064	I'm starting to lean more towards Barkely for the pro style argument sake. RGIII is a little more of a project.
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Urc Burry Veteran Join Date: Jan 2011 Casino cash: $8901048	Barkley will likely be the #2 QB taken, and the odds of us finishing with a higher pick then both the redskins and dolphins isn't too likely. Barkley is the safer bet, but RG3 has a much higher ceiling to me.
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KCrockaholic Sarcasm Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Olathe Casino cash: $4552900	Start either one right away from day 1. I'd still expect 10-6 next year IF this QB we take is actually worth a crap. If we had Luck we'd go 11-5. Guaranteed.
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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $1544064	I think Barkley is a day 1 guy. RGIII maybe year two. I'd also like to keep Zorn around.
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