Fox asked if Orton "gives Chiefs best chance to win"

[Straight, No Chaser]

Earlier in the year, before Tebow was starting, John Fox kept saying Orton "gives us the best chance to win." When asked if Orton gives the Chiefs the best chance to win, he said, "that's funny." But he wasn't smiling. Denver fishwraps really questioning Elroy's decision 2 waive Orton.

If Kyle Orton and the Chiefs win Sunday, the Broncos' releasing of Orton on Nov. 22 will go down as one of the franchise's all-time boneheaded personnel moves.

[milkman]

Orton is a mediocre QB.

The only boneheaded move would be to go into next season with Tim TeBow as their uncontested starter.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by milkman

Orton is a mediocre QB.

The only boneheaded move would be to go into next season with Tim TeBow as their uncontested starter.

[oldman]

Originally Posted by milkman

Orton is a mediocre QB.

That's an improvement from what we had.

[durtyrute]

If we win, it doen't mean that releasing Orton was a dumb move. It just means we were the better team that day. I'd take Tebow over Orton any day of the week

[milkman]

Originally Posted by durtyrute

If we win, it doen't mean that releasing Orton was a dumb move. It just means we were the better team that day. I'd take Tebow over Orton any day of the week

I didn't watch the Bills game clsoely, but every time I turned to it late in the game, it appeared the Bills eschewed a prevent D in favor of tight man coverage on the outside with a cover 2 over the top.

It forced TeBow to make reads and accurate throws, and he was just awful.

Orton is mediocre, but TeBow has no business lining up behind center in the NFL.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by milkman

Orton is mediocre, but TeBow has no business lining up behind center in the NFL.

2011 4th quarter comebacks and game winning drives:

Tebow - 5
Orton - 0

But for Tebow, Denver doesn't control their own destiny with the playoffs on the line.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

2011 4th quarter comebacks and game winning drives:

Tebow - 5
Orton - 0

But for Tebow, Denver doesn't control their own destiny with the playoffs on the line.

Run the ball, control the clock, play defense and keep the game close.

Any QB can pick apart a prevent defense.

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by milkman

Run the ball, control the clock, play defense and keep the game close.

Any QB can pick apart a prevent defense.

if you are keeping the game close, why would the other team be running a "prevent defense" ????

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

2011 4th quarter comebacks and game winning drives:

Tebow - 5
Orton - 0

But for Tebow, Denver doesn't control their own destiny with the playoffs on the line.

I'm not sure if I'm reading that correctly. Are you saying that Denver doesn't control it's own destiny right now? Win the game and they advance... is that not controlling their own destiny?

And, all the Orton talk is good for the media circus at this time of year and it gives this game more attention than it would receive otherwise.

Few talked positively about Orton when he was starting in Denver... few talked positively of him when he was claimed by KC. There's that fascinating aspect of how he can return as a Chief and stomp their playoff chances into the ground, but I really fail to see how that proves cutting him was wise.

Again ... nobody liked Orton much and few thought he could lead them anywhere, many think the same (or worse) about Tebow. So, I just don't see how this could end up as the worst move of all time.

[whoman69]

I think the question was direspectful, and that's exactly what the person who answered the question wanted it to be. Some day John Fox is going to write a book and explain to everyone how he had to re-write the gameplan to keep Tebow from losing all those games for them. The Broncos put in a strategy that downplays Tebow's lack of talent in passing the ball accurately. I really hope the Broncos let Tebow be Tebow as Skip Bayless wants.

[Chiefaholic]

Originally Posted by milkman

I didn't watch the Bills game clsoely, but every time I turned to it late in the game, it appeared the Bills eschewed a prevent D in favor of tight man coverage on the outside with a cover 2 over the top.

It forced TeBow to make reads and accurate throws, and he was just awful.

Orton is mediocre, but TeBow has no business lining up behind center in the NFL.

Somebody PLEASE explain this to ESPN, so they'll stop sucking his schlong.Teblow gets way too much credit for the effort of the team around him. Denver wins in spite of Teblow, not the other way around.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by Chiefaholic

Somebody PLEASE explain this to ESPN, so they'll stop sucking his schlong.Teblow gets way too much credit for the effort of the team around him. Denver wins in spite of Teblow, not the other way around.

Then when the same Broncos team WITH Brandon Lloyd was losing with Orton under center was it all Orton's fault? Were they losing in spite of Orton? If so, why should we believe this guy will do anything for us?

[Radar Chief]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

I know, me too.

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by durtyrute

If we win, it doen't mean that releasing Orton was a dumb move. It just means we were the better team that day. I'd take explosive diarrhea over projectile vomiting any day of the week

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