Chiefs My take on the "situation"

Oh Snap · 03-09-2012, 11:30 AM

I know just from the few times I've been on here, this has been discussed to the point of ad nauseam...However, and with that said, I'm going to give my angle on this whole debacle.

First off, a broke dick Manning is better than a 100% Matt Cassel. Sorry Matt, but its true, you've had 3 years to prove yourself to this organization. I don't know what Pioli sees in him, but its clearly not the same thing us fans have had to witness over that time period. So Manning would be a HUGE upgrade at the QB position. However, I do have to question whether or not his injury could see him retire much sooner than we could be anticipating. What if he takes another huge hit again? How well will he play after being out of the game for 1.5 years? Lots of questions, so it would be a risk to sign him.

Another thing I don't think a lot of people are taking into consideration here...when it comes to Manning "picking" a team, he is probably going to go with the team that he thinks has the best chance to win. That is not Miami. Lets not forget that Miami was a team last year that lost 7 games in a row before they won their first game. Sure, they ended the season on a high note, but they are not a good team compared to the chiefs from a talent standpoint.

Additionally, I can't help but think Manning would want to stay in the Mid-West. He's just lived here for the past several years...Also, something that a lot of people seem to be overlooking is the fan base differences between the two cities. If he is going to go anywhere, you'd think he would pick a place to play where the fans are passionate about their football. Sorry Miami, but you are not the type of town that screams "football". Manning would be getting a similar climate to the one he experienced at Indianapolis if he were to come to KC. He knows what it can be like to play here. (2003 playoffs, 2004 shootout, etc) He would be literally inheriting a fanbase that is far and above that of what can be found in Miami.

Finally, the money is all there...The supporting talent around him, is also there. (Center and RT should be upgraded, maybe you sign a Jeff Saturday and draft a young talented RT with the first pick) What will really make or break this deal imo is the front office in KC. Its already been said, we need to go all in if we are to pursue Peyton.... Manning has MAYBE 2-3 years max left in him...If we can get the type of production out of Manning that we got out of Trent Green, Chief nation will be happy, Pioli will look like a genius, and Crennel will look like Belichick! Okay, maybe not...But I am having a hard time trying to stay pessimistic when the outlook for this team has never looked better in the past few years.

**loochy** · 03-09-2012, 11:31 AM

Oh man I was wondering what you thought about all of this. I can finally sleep at night now.

Oh Snap · 03-09-2012, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by loochy

Oh man I was wondering what you thought about all of this. I can finally sleep at night now.

lol sorry man, I rarely post on here. Take it for what its worth.

**loochy** · 03-09-2012, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Oh Snap

lol sorry man, I rarely post on here. Take it for what its worth.

Dude it's ChiefsPlanet. You've got to know that an incredible sarcastic response is obligatory.

Dayze · 03-09-2012, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by loochy

Dude it's ChiefsPlanet. You've got to know that an incredible sarcastic response is obligatory.

screw you.

**loochy** · 03-09-2012, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Dayze

screw you.

Oh Snap · 03-09-2012, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by loochy

Dude it's ChiefsPlanet. You've got to know that an incredible sarcastic response is obligatory.

I'm not as think as you drunk I am.

**Gonzo** · 03-09-2012, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Oh Snap

lol sorry man, I rarely post on here. Take it for what its worth.

about tree-fiddy.

Okie_Apparition · 03-09-2012, 11:32 AM

Second off, someone with the name Oh Snap
should not be allowed to use the term "broke dick"

**bevischief** · 03-09-2012, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Okie_Apparition

Second off, someone with the name Oh Snap
should not be allowed to use the term "broke dick"

htismaqe · 03-09-2012, 11:34 AM

Let me guess, you're going to reveal to the whole board that you're in love with him...

L.A. Chieffan · 03-09-2012, 11:35 AM

technically cassel only really had one year. and he did pretty good

Oh Snap · 03-09-2012, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan

technically cassel only really had one year. and he did pretty good

I'll give you 2.5 years...he had ONE good year. And that was based off a weak schedule where we won some games despite Cassel. We also lost some games because of him as well. He only had maybe 2 "impressive" games in 2010. The ones against Seattle, and San fran. Meanwhile, he lost us close games against Houstan, and Indianapolis that same year.

Cassel is about as good as he'll ever be right now. We will never win a Super Bowl so long as he is our QB.

L.A. Chieffan · 03-09-2012, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Oh Snap

I'll give you 2.5 years...he had ONE good year. And that was based off a weak schedule where we won some games despite Cassel. We also lost some games because of him as well. He only had maybe 2 "impressive" games in 2010. The ones against Seattle, and San fran. Meanwhile, he lost us close games against Houstan, and Indianapolis that same year.

Cassel is about as good as he'll ever be right now. We will never win a Super Bowl so long as he is our QB.

you have to let him slide the first year with a brand new coach and oc (clancy penderass the worst oc ever). then the second year with another new oc and new system he has one the most efficient seasons in franchise history. then the third year theres a massive power struggle between gm and hc and ANOTHER new OC and a bunch of injuries and he gets injured and etc etc... doomed from the start

**loochy** · 03-09-2012, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan

you have to let him slide the first year with a brand new coach and oc (clancy penderass the worst oc ever). then the second year with another new oc and new system he has one the most efficient seasons in franchise history. then the third year theres a massive power struggle between gm and hc and ANOTHER new OC and a bunch of injuries and he gets injured and etc etc... doomed from the start

I agree. The poor guy just never had a chance.

03-09-2012, 11:30 AM	Topic Starter
Oh Snap Veteran Join Date: Nov 2005 Casino cash: $8934925	My take on the "situation" I know just from the few times I've been on here, this has been discussed to the point of ad nauseam...However, and with that said, I'm going to give my angle on this whole debacle. First off, a broke dick Manning is better than a 100% Matt Cassel. Sorry Matt, but its true, you've had 3 years to prove yourself to this organization. I don't know what Pioli sees in him, but its clearly not the same thing us fans have had to witness over that time period. So Manning would be a HUGE upgrade at the QB position. However, I do have to question whether or not his injury could see him retire much sooner than we could be anticipating. What if he takes another huge hit again? How well will he play after being out of the game for 1.5 years? Lots of questions, so it would be a risk to sign him. Another thing I don't think a lot of people are taking into consideration here...when it comes to Manning "picking" a team, he is probably going to go with the team that he thinks has the best chance to win. That is not Miami. Lets not forget that Miami was a team last year that lost 7 games in a row before they won their first game. Sure, they ended the season on a high note, but they are not a good team compared to the chiefs from a talent standpoint. Additionally, I can't help but think Manning would want to stay in the Mid-West. He's just lived here for the past several years...Also, something that a lot of people seem to be overlooking is the fan base differences between the two cities. If he is going to go anywhere, you'd think he would pick a place to play where the fans are passionate about their football. Sorry Miami, but you are not the type of town that screams "football". Manning would be getting a similar climate to the one he experienced at Indianapolis if he were to come to KC. He knows what it can be like to play here. (2003 playoffs, 2004 shootout, etc) He would be literally inheriting a fanbase that is far and above that of what can be found in Miami. Finally, the money is all there...The supporting talent around him, is also there. (Center and RT should be upgraded, maybe you sign a Jeff Saturday and draft a young talented RT with the first pick) What will really make or break this deal imo is the front office in KC. Its already been said, we need to go all in if we are to pursue Peyton.... Manning has MAYBE 2-3 years max left in him...If we can get the type of production out of Manning that we got out of Trent Green, Chief nation will be happy, Pioli will look like a genius, and Crennel will look like Belichick! Okay, maybe not...But I am having a hard time trying to stay pessimistic when the outlook for this team has never looked better in the past few years.
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03-09-2012, 11:31 AM	#2
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