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Old 09-03-2013, 11:58 PM   Topic Starter
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Alex Smith end of season stats (what if?)
3,500 yards - 25 TD - 10 INT - 80 QBR - 56% Completion - and all 16 games started w/no injury

Is that performance worth the two 2nd round picks KC paid?

Also... would those numbers merit a contract extension and he then gets to groom his eventual replacement?
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Old 09-04-2013, 12:06 AM   #2
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I would say it is, assuming the Chiefs make a serious investment at QB in the draft.

They have yet to do that. They may never do that. But yeah.
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Old 09-04-2013, 12:08 AM   #3
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Old 09-04-2013, 12:13 AM   #4
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Old 09-04-2013, 12:07 AM   #5
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3,500 yards - 25 TD - 10 INT - 80 QBR - 56% Completion - and all 16 games started w/no injury

Is that performance worth the two 2nd round picks KC paid?

Also... would those numbers merit a contract extension and he then gets to groom his eventual replacement?
Those are pedestrian numbers at best. only about 300 more yards total than what he has ever thrown in a season, with a pitiful QBR, and completion percentage.

for it to be justified this season, the team has to make the playoffs, Alex needs to approach 4k the td int is fine, 95 qbr, and 65 percent completion percentage. That would make the trade worthy.
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Old 09-04-2013, 12:08 AM   #6
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Depends on the team W/L i'd say.
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Old 09-04-2013, 06:48 AM   #7
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Depends on the team W/L i'd say.
Exactly. Kids and fantasy footballers can focus on the numbers like this, but all that ever really matters are the wins.

I would easily suspect Smith's completion % to be much better. At least in the 60's. The QBR would likely be in the upper 80's to low 90's. TD/INT ratio looks good enough. Yardage would obviously be higher unless people are wrong about Reid's planned aggression... or Smith misses a few games.

Overall, if he puts up your numbers and KC either goes to or just misses the playoffs at 9-7? Then, I'd say it was a decent and promising start... and to expect even better from the 2014 season.
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Old 09-04-2013, 07:00 AM   #8
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Exactly. Kids and fantasy footballers can focus on the numbers like this, but all that ever really matters are the wins.
Good post and I agree. People are consumed by numbers.
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Old 09-04-2013, 12:08 AM   #9
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Honestly, it depends.

Is there meaning behind those stats?

i.e., How many of those TDs game winners? Did they make a difference between winning and losing? Did a good percentage of those passing yards come from when the team was trailing and provide the difference between us winning and losing? I'd look for those kinda things before deciding whether or not he was worth the second round pick.
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Old 09-04-2013, 05:19 AM   #10
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Honestly, it depends.

Is there meaning behind those stats?

i.e., How many of those TDs game winners? Did they make a difference between winning and losing? Did a good percentage of those passing yards come from when the team was trailing and provide the difference between us winning and losing? I'd look for those kinda things before deciding whether or not he was worth the second round pick.
I'd agree. Did he put the team in position to win? Is the TD/INT ratio or number of yards truly indicitive of his performance? Just my opinion, but the number of wins count in my book.
I never understood the old QB rating system (WTF is 158.3 perfect?), so I'm not going to comment on the new one.
I'm not quite ready to jump on the Bray bandwagon just yet, but if he pans out as well as he played in game 4 of the preseason, why worry about where he was or wasn't drafted. Sure enough he was playing against 2s and 3s, but he was playing with 2s and 3s and a lot that aren't employed today.
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Old 09-04-2013, 08:15 AM   #11
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Honestly, it depends.

Is there meaning behind those stats?

i.e., How many of those TDs game winners? Did they make a difference between winning and losing? Did a good percentage of those passing yards come from when the team was trailing and provide the difference between us winning and losing? I'd look for those kinda things before deciding whether or not he was worth the second round pick.
This.

Or, restated in an easier way:

Are these Matt Cassel "Pro Bowl" numbers?
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Honestly, it depends.

Is there meaning behind those stats?

i.e., How many of those TDs game winners? Did they make a difference between winning and losing? Did a good percentage of those passing yards come from when the team was trailing and provide the difference between us winning and losing? I'd look for those kinda things before deciding whether or not he was worth the second round pick.
can't find stats for any of this so it can't be important /cp elite
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Old 09-04-2013, 12:10 AM   #13
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depends on if we win 8 games with those stats. Isn't that the number they based the 2nd round draft pick on?

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Yes, I would expect we would win at least 8 games if he has those stats. But, stranger things have happened.
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depends on if we win 8 games with those stats. Isn't that the number they based the 2nd round draft pick on?

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Yes, I would expect we would win at least 8 games if he has those stats. But, stranger things have happened.
56 percent completion percentage. probably means that Alex is still horrible on 3rd down. To get 3500 yards and only 56 percent completion percentage?

The chiefs are trailing a lot. Some how with that Alex Smith only throws 10 picks?
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We talking the new QBR or the old passer rating?

If the new QBR, 80 is pretty damn good. 56% completion percentage is abysmal but 25/10 would be pretty good.
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