Chiefs Is this 2004 déjà vu?

**BossChief** · 03-12-2014, 07:23 AM

It just seems like so far that's where this offseason is heading.

We have a good year and then in the offseason we spin our wheels/take steps back...while other teams in division are clearly bolstering their lineups.

I just feel like this is the offseason we need to make a push to put the pieces in place to win some playoff games and unless we add some serious pieces, we have a better chance at missing the playoffs all together.

This doesn't have much to do with day 1 free agency as it does the fact there has been no movement to try and create cap space by restructuring deals, no interest in the affordable signings and we let 3 quality OL walk in a year a division for is bolstering their pass rush and coverage units.

Just feels just like 2004, so far anyway.

Anyone else feel this way?

**Bob Dole** · 03-12-2014, 07:27 AM

All years feel the same at this point.

htismaqe · 03-12-2014, 07:30 AM

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All years feel the same at this point.

This.

Simply Red · 03-12-2014, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole

All years feel the same at this point.

Mr_Tomahawk · 03-12-2014, 07:27 AM

Maybe you have to go poopy.

RunKC · 03-12-2014, 07:31 AM

Jesus ****ing Christ it's the 2nd day of free agency. Can we at least wait until after the draft for this shit?

The broncos just splurged on a CB that has missed 25 games in the last 3 years. They massively overpaid.

htismaqe · 03-12-2014, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Jesus ****ing Christ it's the 2nd day of free agency. Can we at least wait until after the draft for this shit?

The broncos just splurged on a CB that has missed 25 games in the last 3 years. They massively overpaid.

Don't forget TJ Ward.

Face it, the Broncos got better. We didn't.

And why should we wait until after the draft? So we can try to force ourselves to get excited about a ****ing guard?

RunKC · 03-12-2014, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Don't forget TJ Ward.

Face it, the Broncos got better. We didn't.

And why should we wait until after the draft? So we can try to force ourselves to get excited about a ****ing guard?

They also got worse. Decker leaving is a big deal as well as their starting guard.

They don't have a legit RB. Who are their other DB's? Who are their LB's?

Von Miller and Chris Harris tore their ACL's less than 2 months ago. They will be lucky to be at full speed by the end of the season. Those are huge losses. They really didn't get better in the grand scheme of things IMO.

htismaqe · 03-12-2014, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

They also got worse. Decker leaving is a big deal as well as their starting guard.

They didn't miss Ryan Clady, they won't miss Beadles.

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They don't have a legit RB. Who are their other DB's? Who are their LB's?

They had shit RBs and DBs last year and made it to the Super Bowl.

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Von Miller and Chris Harris tore their ACL's less than 2 months ago. They will be lucky to be at full speed by the end of the season. Those are huge losses. They really didn't get better in the grand scheme of things IMO.

Hope in one hand, shit in the other...

Hoover · 03-12-2014, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

They didn't miss Ryan Clady, they won't miss Beadles.

They had shit RBs and DBs last year and made it to the Super Bowl.

Hope in one hand, shit in the other...

I didn't say any of those things FYI

kcchiefsus · 03-12-2014, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Jesus ****ing Christ it's the 2nd day of free agency. Can we at least wait until after the draft for this shit?

The broncos just splurged on a CB that has missed 25 games in the last 3 years. They massively overpaid.

Well let's put it this way. The Broncos are now better than us in the secondary, at WR, at TE, at QB, and at OL. We're probably better on the DL and at LB. However, if they add Demarcus Ware I'd possibly call LB a push. Granted they'll be in cap hell in the near future, but at least they made the Super Bowl and have a good chance at making it again this year.

Let's face it. This organization is simply a bottom feeder of the league and have been for most of it's existence. The Broncos and Saints both have some big contracts including very highly paid quarterbacks. They have still found ways to go out there and sign the Aqib Talib's, T.J. Ward's, and Jairus Byrd's of the NFL. They take chances and both organizations have been to and/or won super bowls in recent years. But hey, we'll continue to play it safe. Dorsey and Reid will probably be fired in 3 or 4 years and we'll start this whole insane process over again. We'll have a bit of hope but will continue to rely on journeymen/castoff quarterbacks. This organization is good at one thing: Losing.

Chiefshrink · 03-12-2014, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Jesus ****ing Christ it's the 2nd day of free agency. Can we at least wait until after the draft for this shit?

The broncos just splurged on a CB that has missed 25 games in the last 3 years. They massively overpaid.

Real perspective here.

Bellichek does not let players get away who are really worth their salt.

**bevischief** · 03-12-2014, 07:31 AM

Oh no they suck again...

Hoover · 03-12-2014, 07:40 AM

You guys drive me nuts.

I know, I know, free agency is like Christmas and you little boys are upset that while Bobby down the street (the broncos) got a huge gift (Talib) Santa brought you a pack of gum (Zombo). What you realize is that Bobby's smoking hot mom (Manning) is out screwing around on his Dad (Elway) and before you know it Bobby's like is going to suck because of a broken home.

Here is out reality.

1. The free agent market is out of control. All of these contracts are out of control. Just look at the former Chiefs that were swiped up on day one. Hey, I like some of those guys but not for what they got on the open market.

2. You guys always bitch and moan about wanting to build through the draft, and now that we are you are pissed that we are not signing guys to a 10-mil a year contract that will likely make like difficult in future years.

3. We need a starting guard, a backup guard, a backup tackle, a punt returner, and a free safety. We don't need to break the bank filling those positions. With the draft full of WR talent, I don't know why I'd throw FA dollars at that position when I can get a young guy on a rookie contract to play for me for the next 4-5 years.

4. I want the Chiefs to be smart in free agency, not stupid. Anyone can buy shit, but that doesn't mean it will get you victories. All one needs to do to realize that is look at Cowboys and Redskins.

I want something cool to unwrap too, but perhaps our parents are the type that are going to be more about the thoughtful gifts, instead of expensive gifts.

htismaqe · 03-12-2014, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

1. The free agent market is out of control. All of these contracts are out of control. Just look at the former Chiefs that were swiped up on day one. Hey, I like some of those guys but not for what they got on the open market.

If ALL contracts are "out of control" then by definition, you're measuring against an already obsolete baseline. The cap is going up. A LOT. Contracts are going to go up. It's basic cause and effect.

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2. You guys always bitch and moan about wanting to build through the draft, and now that we are you are pissed that we are not signing guys to a 10-mil a year contract that will likely make like difficult in future years.

We spent the first overall pick on a right tackle. We traded away two 2nd round picks for a 30-year old QB. We gave contracts to aging players like Dwayne Bowe. Would I PREFER to build through the draft? Sure. But first and foremost, I'd like to see some CONSISTENCY in their approach.

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3. We need a starting guard, a backup guard, a backup tackle, a punt returner, and a free safety. We don't need to break the bank filling those positions. With the draft full of WR talent, I don't know why I'd throw FA dollars at that position when I can get a young guy on a rookie contract to play for me for the next 4-5 years.

So you're going to draft that starting guard then? So much for building through the draft. The picking are already getting slim in free agency when you compare what is available to what our needs are.

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4. I want the Chiefs to be smart in free agency, not stupid. Anyone can buy shit, but that doesn't mean it will get you victories. All one needs to do to realize that is look at Cowboys and Redskins.

Being judicious with money is smart. Doing nothing and letting whole groups of players walk is not.

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BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1755912	Is this 2004 déjà vu? It just seems like so far that's where this offseason is heading. We have a good year and then in the offseason we spin our wheels/take steps back...while other teams in division are clearly bolstering their lineups. I just feel like this is the offseason we need to make a push to put the pieces in place to win some playoff games and unless we add some serious pieces, we have a better chance at missing the playoffs all together. This doesn't have much to do with day 1 free agency as it does the fact there has been no movement to try and create cap space by restructuring deals, no interest in the affordable signings and we let 3 quality OL walk in a year a division for is bolstering their pass rush and coverage units. Just feels just like 2004, so far anyway. Anyone else feel this way?
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Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-2151821	You guys drive me nuts. I know, I know, free agency is like Christmas and you little boys are upset that while Bobby down the street (the broncos) got a huge gift (Talib) Santa brought you a pack of gum (Zombo). What you realize is that Bobby's smoking hot mom (Manning) is out screwing around on his Dad (Elway) and before you know it Bobby's like is going to suck because of a broken home. Here is out reality. 1. The free agent market is out of control. All of these contracts are out of control. Just look at the former Chiefs that were swiped up on day one. Hey, I like some of those guys but not for what they got on the open market. 2. You guys always bitch and moan about wanting to build through the draft, and now that we are you are pissed that we are not signing guys to a 10-mil a year contract that will likely make like difficult in future years. 3. We need a starting guard, a backup guard, a backup tackle, a punt returner, and a free safety. We don't need to break the bank filling those positions. With the draft full of WR talent, I don't know why I'd throw FA dollars at that position when I can get a young guy on a rookie contract to play for me for the next 4-5 years. 4. I want the Chiefs to be smart in free agency, not stupid. Anyone can buy shit, but that doesn't mean it will get you victories. All one needs to do to realize that is look at Cowboys and Redskins. I want something cool to unwrap too, but perhaps our parents are the type that are going to be more about the thoughtful gifts, instead of expensive gifts.
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