Chiefs 6-10 Team with Chase Daniel

Prison Bitch · 12-28-2014, 05:15 PM

Someone at the game today made a comment that we should play Chase Daniel next year and "get rid of that clown Smith". Like always, I wanted to see what the data suggests.

We have almost no sample size for Daniel as he's played 2 games. We have a large sample size for Alex though. QB rating is extremely correlated to wins in the NFL. The average rating is 84: a team can expect an additional win (or loss) moving approximately 6 points from the median. Alex had a 93 rating and Daniel had a 75 rating today. That's an implied swing of 3 full games if we assume static performance.

While there is no way to know if Daniel would perform differently over the course of a season, it's doubtful any teams (or our own coaching staff) believe he could. Else, he'd be picked up as a starter. Whether Chiefs fans see any value finishing 9-7 vs 6-10 if you miss the playoffs regardless is another discussion.

**Bowser** · 12-28-2014, 05:23 PM

You'd be hard pressed to convince me that Chase couldn't do anything Alex did this season.

**TimBone** · 12-28-2014, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

You'd be hard pressed to convince me that Chase couldn't do anything Alex did this season.

I agree with this mostly. The one exception is the Buffalo game. I think Smith won that game for us. It was the perfect game for his non turnover and risk averse nature paid off huge.

**Bowser** · 12-28-2014, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TimBone

I agree with this mostly. The one exception is the Buffalo game. I think Smith won that game for us. It was the perfect game for his non turnover and risk averse nature paid off huge.

I remember that Buffalo game being won by fantastic play out of Ron Parker, only to see him get turned to burnt toast the rest of the season. I honestly have no memory of Alex's performance that game.

Prison Bitch · 12-28-2014, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

You'd be hard pressed to convince me that Chase couldn't do anything Alex did this season.

I'm not convincing anyone of anything, I'm simply posting the data.

If you believe Chase Daniel could run a full season with a 93 rating though, I'll find that extremely doubtful and nobody in the League would likely agree.

Gravedigger · 12-28-2014, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

I'm not convincing anyone of anything, I'm simply posting the data.

If you believe Chase Daniel could run a full season with a 93 rating though, I'll find that extremely doubtful and nobody in the League would likely agree.

Your "data" has Chase with two games, how many games does Alex have?

MIAdragon · 12-28-2014, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

I'm not convincing anyone of anything, I'm simply posting the data.

If you believe Chase Daniel could run a full season with a 93 rating though, I'll find that extremely doubtful and nobody in the League would likely agree.

2 games of data, lolz.

**Gonzo** · 12-28-2014, 05:24 PM

Nobody on any NFL team is more popular than the backup quarterback.

**Bearcat** · 12-28-2014, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Gonzo

Nobody on any NFL team is more popular than the backup quarterback.

Well, for Packers fans, I think it's...
Favorite player: Aaron Rodgers
2nd favorite player: One legged Aaron Rodgers

Prison Bitch · 12-28-2014, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Gonzo

Nobody on any NFL team is more popular than the backup quarterback.

My thoughts too when I heard that. I figured it was probably being said here too. Alex' rating the past 4 years has been pretty stout and is probably adding 2 full wins to our season records vs an average QB.

aturnis · 12-28-2014, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Gonzo

Nobody on any NFL team is more popular than the backup quarterback.

Nobody wants Chase Daniel. Not really anyway. Just pointing out that Alex is no better than any other 3 million dollar QB.

We might be best served to move on. Long term.

Short term, we can try to shore him up with a new everything else.

Where's your money?

King_Chief_Fan · 12-28-2014, 05:25 PM

Any qb can play this offense.
Any claim to fame about Daniel in this offense is basically reeruned. 5 visits to the red zone and 1 TD.
Nothing to crow about for Daniel other than he can fill in adequately for this teams game manager.

Sannyasi · 12-28-2014, 05:29 PM

Daniel didn't have a very good game, but I do think its hard to step in and play at a high level when you don't even know you are starting until a few days before the game.

jd1020 · 12-28-2014, 05:29 PM

Daniel's first start of the year with less than a week of preparation > Smith's first start of the year with a full offseason.

**Easy 6** · 12-28-2014, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Daniel's first start of the year with less than a week of preparation > Smith's first start of the year with a full offseason.

Pretty much.

He has the same arm and running ability, but way more guts.

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Prison Bitch Rabbi Goldmann Join Date: Nov 2012 Casino cash: $5450159	6-10 Team with Chase Daniel Someone at the game today made a comment that we should play Chase Daniel next year and "get rid of that clown Smith". Like always, I wanted to see what the data suggests. We have almost no sample size for Daniel as he's played 2 games. We have a large sample size for Alex though. QB rating is extremely correlated to wins in the NFL. The average rating is 84: a team can expect an additional win (or loss) moving approximately 6 points from the median. Alex had a 93 rating and Daniel had a 75 rating today. That's an implied swing of 3 full games if we assume static performance. While there is no way to know if Daniel would perform differently over the course of a season, it's doubtful any teams (or our own coaching staff) believe he could. Else, he'd be picked up as a starter. Whether Chiefs fans see any value finishing 9-7 vs 6-10 if you miss the playoffs regardless is another discussion.
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