Alex Smith's 2nd year looks alot like Trent Green's 2nd yr w/Chiefs

[cmh6476]

stat-wise and Because we are the Chiefs and DKTM

Trent Green 2002 (32 years old)
287/470 - 61.1% 3,690 yards 26 TDs 13 INTs

Alex Smith 2014 (30 years old)
303/464 - 65.3% 3,265 yards 18 TDs 6 INTs

Well sans the TDs but Green only had 17 in 2001 and Smith had 23 in 2013.

[Discuss Thrower]

And Alex probably isn't anywhere near Trent's yards per attempt or per completion.

[ODESSABRONC]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

And Alex probably isn't anywhere near Trent's yards per attempt or per completion.

I was just going bring this up. Because I'm sure there is noticeable difference.

[johnny961]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

And Alex probably isn't anywhere near Trent's yards per attempt or per completion.

Alex never will be a gunslinger. With better protection though it gives the intermediate and longer routes more time to develop.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by johnny961

Alex never will be a gunslinger. With better protection though it gives the intermediate and longer routes more time to develop.

Alex + 2002-2005 Chiefs OL = Still topping out at just over 9 yards/completion.

Compared to Green's 12.9.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Alex + 2002-2005 Chiefs OL = Still topping out at just over 9 yards/completion.

Compared to Green's 12.9.

No way. Charles takes those screen passes 70 yards to the house just like Priest did.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

No way. Charles takes those screen passes 70 yards to the house just like Priest did.

Great point. KC loves their screen game, but really suffers in the screen game with a bad OL.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Alex + 2002-2005 Chiefs OL = Still topping out at just over 9 yards/completion.

Compared to Green's 12.9.

and how would Trent have fared with the 2014 Chiefs line?

I bet we'd have won less games with Trent at QB this year than with Alex. As soon as Trent lost his line he lost his game. I said as much during the Huard/Green debate. Shit, Trent had a bit of Alex in him where towards the end he struggled throwing to guys unless they were wide open, whereas Huard would chuck it to TG or DB every time no questions asked and just hoped they'd make a play. And the Huard method was more effective.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

and how would Trent have fared with the 2014 Chiefs line?

I bet we'd have won less games with Trent at QB this year than with Alex. As soon as Trent lost his line he lost his game. I said as much during the Huard/Green debate. Shit, Trent had a bit of Alex in him where towards the end he struggled throwing to guys unless they were wide open, whereas Huard would chuck it to TG or DB every time no questions asked and just hoped they'd make a play. And the Huard method was more effective.

Green was done as soon as Roaf retired.

It was just the rainy afternoon against Cincy when his head flattened against the ground that made it final.

I was surprised that he ever took another NFL snap. That was disgusting, and horrifying.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

and how would Trent have fared with the 2014 Chiefs line?

I bet we'd have won less games with Trent at QB this year than with Alex. As soon as Trent lost his line he lost his game. I said as much during the Huard/Green debate. Shit, Trent had a bit of Alex in him where towards the end he struggled throwing to guys unless they were wide open, whereas Huard would chuck it to TG or DB every time no questions asked and just hoped they'd make a play. And the Huard method was more effective.

To be fair, that was also a 36-year-old Trent Green whose brain was scrambled like a Shop-Vac'ed fetus and who played with different rules for hitting receivers.

When Roaf was out for long stretches in 2005 and Green was constantly harassed around the blind side he still had a number of performances that lay waste to Smith.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

And Alex probably isn't anywhere near Trent's yards per attempt or per completion.

And Alex's line is nowhere bear as good as Trent's was at that time...

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

And Alex probably isn't anywhere near Trent's yards per attempt or per completion.

Those 70 yard screens to Priest worked wonders for Trent's ypa, didn't they??

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

Those 70 yard screens to Priest worked wonders for Trent's ypa, didn't they??

are u suggesting that Fulton, McGlynn, and Harris are not exceptional screen blockers in space? how dare you, sir!

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

Those 70 yard screens to Priest worked wonders for Trent's ypa, didn't they??

You mean Dante Hall?

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

Those 70 yard screens to Priest worked wonders for Trent's ypa, didn't they??

Except that pass to Knile wasnt a screen, it was an actual attempt by Reid to get his backs downfield with a head of steam before giving them the ball.

Been bitching about it for atleast 8 games this year... where was the CREATIVITY in getting those 3 playmakers the ball? Most defenses are far too fast to get away with constant screens, they're going to key on guys and chase them down sideline to sideline.

BUT... if you get that ultraquick back going forward at speed and making cuts, that backer or safety covering them stands NO chance at keeping up with them as they receive the ball.

I digress, but that was a major disappointment of mine with Reid this year... sure he'd throw to the backs, but only on a parallel line where defenses could more easily diagnose it and get to it.