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Wow ... this Big Papi article was pretty cool ...
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03-27-2015, 09:25 AM | #2 |
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Why doesn't the MLB contract out to a company to make their own supplements and require the players to take those?
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03-27-2015, 09:27 AM | #3 |
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Cool just like Rafi Palmeiro, I guess. The mother****er got popped, said he never "knowingly" took steroids as a cop-out, then said he was never informed of a positive test despite the union informing everyone of their positive tests.
Amazingly, the broken-English speaking mother****er is now able to pen an essay defending himself? The guy is as full of shit as his obviously ghostwritten screed. I'd actually be able to respect him if he hadn't gone the Clemens/Palmeiro/Armstrong route, but he's too much of a ****ing coward to do that. |
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03-27-2015, 09:33 AM | #4 |
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Blah blah bullshit
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03-27-2015, 09:43 AM | #5 |
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03-27-2015, 09:49 AM | #6 |
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Who cares...its a game. If they want to cheat and juice up their bodies with all of these unnatural hormones etc and then die 20yrs after they're done playing due to heart liver or kidney failure then let them do it. We're fans. We're paying to watch entertainment. What better entertainment is there than to watch these guys crush HR's over the wall? I mean is there a second records book kept in the PGA for the era of wooden clubs compared to the space aged carbon graphite neutron sticks PGA players swing with today? MLB has a viewer problem, the downside to baseball to some people is there is too much non-activity. Well, add more HR's to the game and people will start to notice and won't care about the inactivity. In my lifetime there wasn't a better time in baseball than to watch the season HR record chase between McGwire and Sosa. They 100% most certainly deserve to be in the HOF regardless of what they were caught using or doing. Steroids don't improve hand-eye coordination either which really is about 90% of batting.
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03-27-2015, 10:23 AM | #8 | |
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90% of batting isn't about hand-eye coordination - it's about being able to get an object with significant mass (the bat) through the hitting zone in the blink of an eye and to do so with consistent timing/mechanics. Additional strength creates the ability to move that mass faster and with more control. As such, you're able to wait just a hair longer to commit to your swing, giving you better pitch recognition. With more strength you're not straining your body as hard to swing the bat so you're able to direct the head of the bat and better maintain your swing plane. With more core strength you're able to coil all that energy from your legs into your back and when you release through impact, it's all going into the ball. Yes, steroids make a HUGE difference in how major league hitters are able to hit the ball. They wouldn't help you or I because we don't have the threshold hand-eye coordination to succeed. But every last one of these guys do. The marginal benefits from steroid use are huge.
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03-27-2015, 10:51 AM | #9 | |
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Is Ortiz totally "clean" probably not. That said if he did test positive it would have come out already. |
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Did David Ortiz admit to more than he realized with his Players’ Tribune editorial?
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They're breaking Federal law, and setting a terrible example for young males. Sorry but it should be banned and it should be prosecuted. |
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03-27-2015, 10:18 AM | #13 |
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Well since Hamas beat me to both the Palmiero 'indignance' rebuttal as well as the suspension of disbelief required to believe that David Ortiz ever said something like "I've won three World Series since MLB introduced comprehensive drug testing" I'll just go with this:
No, you don't deserve to be in the HOF because you're a goddamn slow-pitch softball player playing baseball for a living. No DH in the history of ever should be in the HoF. You could have a lifetime batting average of .400 with an OPS of 1.200 and I wouldn't support a ****ing DH as a HoFer.
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Truthfully, I've never really been able to pin myself down on him. McGwire? No. Sosa? No. Bonds? The guy was just an incredible ballplayer before he even pondered using steroids. Then again, once you start trying to draw lines at what someone did before steroids vs. after, you're getting close to trying to argue degrees of efficacy among those that used it. If one guy was a HoFer before he used, then maybe another guy didn't actually get much benefit from them while he was using and should be a HoFer. You're cutting lines exceptionally thin there. To avoid that kind of line drawing, you essentially have to see steroid use in terms of a binary rule - either no penalty or a death penalty. At that point I have to get to either A) I don't care if you used them - in which case McGwire and Sosa are in or B) If you used them at all, you're out - in which case Bonds is out. As are Clemens and A-Rod, who'd have both been HoF players even without steroids. So I'm either left with a HoF that has Palmiero and McGwire or I have one that doesn't include Bonds, A-Rod and Clemens. Frankly, I'm a small hall guy anyway so in the end, I'd say keep all of them out. But like I said, I really see both sides of this one. I even understand the people that make the 'if you were a HoFer before 'roids' argument - I just think it's too speculative and logically inconsistent.
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