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Old 04-24-2015, 11:16 AM   Topic Starter
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Dorsey-"there are only 10-12 impact players in the draft"

@TerezPaylor: #Chiefs GM John Dorsey says there are 10-12 impact players in this draft.

Looks like a trade down is coming. Can you guess the 12 players?
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Old 04-24-2015, 11:18 AM   #2
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Hopefully 10 of those are OL
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Old 04-24-2015, 11:19 AM   #3
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Old 04-24-2015, 11:19 AM   #4
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Convenient for a guy picking 18 to say


If we were picking 7, he'd have culled his list to five
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Old 04-24-2015, 11:21 AM   #5
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Convenient for a guy picking 18 to say


If we were picking 7, he'd have culled his list to five
This. He's trying to entice a team to move up so he can get his wish and move down.
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Old 04-24-2015, 11:20 AM   #6
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Probably going to be one of the shittier drafts to have 7+ picks.
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Old 04-24-2015, 11:20 AM   #7
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doubt a trade down. But its his way of justifying using a first rounder on another Eric Fisher/Dee Ford type who takes 2-3 years to develop rather than a guy that can come in day 1 and make an instant impact... but I expected nothing less from our first rounder cause thats ususlly the Chiefs Way
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Old 04-24-2015, 11:24 AM   #8
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doubt a trade down. But its his way of justifying using a first rounder on another Eric Fisher/Dee Ford type who takes 2-3 years to develop rather than a guy that can come in day 1 and make an instant impact... but I expected nothing less from our first rounder cause thats ususlly the Chiefs Way
Look at Dorsey's two first round picks -

- Eric Fisher for Brandon Albert who was in his final year here
- Dee Ford for Tamba Hali that most everyone expected not to be here this season

Sean Smith is in his final year of his contract, and he's looking at a two game suspension to start the year. We're going corner in the first this draft, and Dorsey probably feels like he can nab one further down than where we are right now.
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Old 04-24-2015, 11:29 AM   #9
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Look at Dorsey's two first round picks -

- Eric Fisher for Brandon Albert who was in his final year here
- Dee Ford for Tamba Hali that most everyone expected not to be here this season

Sean Smith is in his final year of his contract, and he's looking at a two game suspension to start the year. We're going corner in the first this draft, and Dorsey probably feels like he can nab one further down than where we are right now.
yea his two first round picks who made zero impact as rookies for this team compared to players who were picked after that could have. Hes going to do it again.

and I like both players. Ive just accepted the fact that the Chiefs arent getting a year 1 impact talent
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Old 04-24-2015, 01:30 PM   #10
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doubt a trade down. But its his way of justifying using a first rounder on another Eric Fisher/Dee Ford type who takes 2-3 years to develop rather than a guy that can come in day 1 and make an instant impact... but I expected nothing less from our first rounder cause thats ususlly the Chiefs Way
Cool. More crying.

We just don't see enough of it around here...
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Old 04-24-2015, 11:26 AM   #11
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There are 12 impact players and we have 11 picks. I don't see the problem.
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Old 04-24-2015, 11:29 AM   #12
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There are 12 impact players
The Chiefs pick at 18

I look forward to hearing something along the lines of

"He's one of the guys we felt would be an impact player, and we're thrilled that he was still there at 18".
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Old 04-24-2015, 11:40 AM   #13
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There are 12 impact players
The Chiefs pick at 18

I look forward to hearing something along the lines of

"He's one of the guys we felt would be an impact player, and we're thrilled that he was still there at 18".
That doesn't mean they are all favored players that everyone else has.

It could easily be composed of players like Marcus Peters, Phillip Dorsett, Nelson Agholor, etc who could be there at our pick.
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Old 04-24-2015, 11:40 AM   #14
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That doesn't mean they are all favored players that everyone else has.

It could easily be composed of players like Marcus Peters, Phillip Dorsett, Nelson Agholor, etc who could be there at our pick.
Yep.
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Old 04-24-2015, 11:51 AM   #15
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That doesn't mean they are all favored players that everyone else has.

It could easily be composed of players like Marcus Peters, Phillip Dorsett, Nelson Agholor, etc who could be there at our pick.
I wasn't picking on Dorsey. That's a standard type of PR line for almost all GMs. It's like them saying "He was the #1 guy on our board". Pretty much every GM not named Belichick takes this approach. And I'm not saying that to excuse Belichick, it's just that he goes in a different direction because of his penchant for trading down.

Belichick takes the route of trying to sell people on "We had a group of about 5 players that we weighted the same, so we were able to trade down and still get one of them".

In both cases, the truth of the matter is irrelevant.
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