Chiefs Is it time for Kansas City Chiefs to play Dee Ford over Tamba Hali?

oaklandhater · 10-23-2015, 03:21 PM

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2015/1...ver-tamba-hali

the Kansas City Chiefs are 1-5 on the season. They're not going to run the table on their 10 remaining games and finish the season 11-5. We know that the season, from a playoff perspective, is more or less over.

Tamba Hali is not likely to be part of this team next year but he continues to start at outside linebacker for the Chiefs. Dee Ford, who is more likely than Tamba to be on the roster next year, is not playing very much right now. The Chiefs continue to use mostly Tamba with a little Dee spiced in.

So at 1-5 should the Chiefs start playing Dee Ford over Tamba Hali?

It's a legitimate question and one folks are wondering. Tamba has clearly lost a step but does appear to be the better overall player than Ford right now, especially against the run. (Last week against Adrian Peterson, Tamba played every snap while Ford played just five snaps.) If you're trying to win games, you're picking Tamba over Ford for the bulk of the snaps, and that's what the Chiefs have been doing so fart his season (and last year).

The argument is whether you should set aside the question of who is the better player right now and look at who is going to help you in the future. That would more likely be Ford than Tamba given their age and contract situations. So the argument says you should be playing Ford right now to get him some meaningful reps for next year, and at least get something out of this season.

Without considering anything else, playing Ford over Tamba is the answer. But there's obviously more to it than that. How are you as a coaching staff going to look at Derrick Johnson and Justin Houston and the rest of the players busting their ass that they're going to be playing a lesser player at a position, that you're essentially giving up on the season six weeks in? That sets a horrible precedent for the rest of the players on the roster who will be with this same coaching staff next year. I just can't see how the Chiefs could throw the white flag this early in the season, even if it is effectively over with little shot of the playoffs.

There should be more Ford

Molitoth · 10-23-2015, 03:22 PM

**The Franchise** · 10-23-2015, 03:25 PM

Yes.

Ford over Hali.
Anybody over Avant.
Murray over Smith.

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-23-2015, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Yes.

Ford over Hali.
Anybody over Avant.
Murray over Smith.

Definitely this. I'd really like to know if Ford and Murray have anything at all.

Psyko Tek · 10-23-2015, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave

Definitely this. I'd really like to know if Ford and Murray have anything at all.

play'em or cut'em
if they can't beat out the old guys why keep them

**BossChief** · 10-23-2015, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Yes.

Ford over Hali.
Anybody over Avant.
Murray over Smith.

No question.

Prison Bitch · 10-23-2015, 03:27 PM

Hali should've been cut this offseason

keg in kc · 10-23-2015, 03:34 PM

So fart this season?

Seriously?

Hydrae · 10-23-2015, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

So fart this season?

Seriously?

No, it says "so fart his season". The space is in the wrong place but the letters are exactly right, no extra "t".

**TimBone** · 10-23-2015, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

So fart this season?

Seriously?

No. So fart his season.

**Baby Lee** · 10-23-2015, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TimBone

No. So fart his season.

Diiiiiii-kah!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psyko Tek

play'em or cut'em

So fart his season?

jspchief · 10-23-2015, 03:45 PM

I hate to say it, but in my opinion if Ford was worth a shit the coaches would be finding ways to get him on the field. The fact that he hasn't shown enough in practice to make that happen has me concerned.

**BossChief** · 10-23-2015, 03:47 PM

I really hate to say this, but Dee Ford looks like he has terrible football instincts for a LBer.

He needs to be on the field a lot to identify if he can develop or not.

Coochie liquor · 10-23-2015, 03:57 PM

Yeah, at this point what do we have to lose. I'm hoping he turns out to be at least a decent situational player vs being a complete bust. Seems we really got caught with our pants down on that pick.

ILChief · 10-23-2015, 04:32 PM

It was time two weeks ago

10-23-2015, 03:21 PM	Topic Starter
oaklandhater future chiefs fans Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: oakland california Casino cash: $5828993	Is it time for Kansas City Chiefs to play Dee Ford over Tamba Hali? http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2015/1...ver-tamba-hali the Kansas City Chiefs are 1-5 on the season. They're not going to run the table on their 10 remaining games and finish the season 11-5. We know that the season, from a playoff perspective, is more or less over. Tamba Hali is not likely to be part of this team next year but he continues to start at outside linebacker for the Chiefs. Dee Ford, who is more likely than Tamba to be on the roster next year, is not playing very much right now. The Chiefs continue to use mostly Tamba with a little Dee spiced in. So at 1-5 should the Chiefs start playing Dee Ford over Tamba Hali? It's a legitimate question and one folks are wondering. Tamba has clearly lost a step but does appear to be the better overall player than Ford right now, especially against the run. (Last week against Adrian Peterson, Tamba played every snap while Ford played just five snaps.) If you're trying to win games, you're picking Tamba over Ford for the bulk of the snaps, and that's what the Chiefs have been doing so fart his season (and last year). The argument is whether you should set aside the question of who is the better player right now and look at who is going to help you in the future. That would more likely be Ford than Tamba given their age and contract situations. So the argument says you should be playing Ford right now to get him some meaningful reps for next year, and at least get something out of this season. Without considering anything else, playing Ford over Tamba is the answer. But there's obviously more to it than that. How are you as a coaching staff going to look at Derrick Johnson and Justin Houston and the rest of the players busting their ass that they're going to be playing a lesser player at a position, that you're essentially giving up on the season six weeks in? That sets a horrible precedent for the rest of the players on the roster who will be with this same coaching staff next year. I just can't see how the Chiefs could throw the white flag this early in the season, even if it is effectively over with little shot of the playoffs. There should be more Ford
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The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2065047	Yes. Ford over Hali. Anybody over Avant. Murray over Smith.
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jspchief BAMF Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Your Face Casino cash: $9998710	I hate to say it, but in my opinion if Ford was worth a shit the coaches would be finding ways to get him on the field. The fact that he hasn't shown enough in practice to make that happen has me concerned. __________________ Courage is not the absence of fear but rather the judgment that something is more important than fear. The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all.
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BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1725912	I really hate to say this, but Dee Ford looks like he has terrible football instincts for a LBer. He needs to be on the field a lot to identify if he can develop or not. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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Coochie liquor Bolton gonna knock you out Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: They Freed Kartel!! Casino cash: $-967606	Yeah, at this point what do we have to lose. I'm hoping he turns out to be at least a decent situational player vs being a complete bust. Seems we really got caught with our pants down on that pick. __________________ 2025 Adopt a Chief - Travis “Swifty Slayer” Kelce The Travis Kelce farewell tour SB MVP incoming!
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