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Old 09-29-2016, 07:04 AM   Topic Starter
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I really like our corners right now.
I realize I'm probably going to regret saying this as Big Ben can legitimately carve up even elite secondaries, but two guys have me super impressed, aside from the usual amazing Marcus Peters:

Phillip Gaines. He's got some technique to clean up on, but he's started this season against Hopkins/Fuller and Marshall/Decker (we'll ignore the Chargers, since Keenan Allen was beating the shit out of Peters Week 1) and held his own. These WRs are more savvy than him right now but I'm getting flashbacks to when we started Brandon Carr for his rookie year -- he'll only get better as he gets more experience. His recovery speed is awesome, and he's almost always in the receiver's pocket.

Steven Nelson. What a shock to the system this guy has been -- the staff has handled him absolutely perfectly. Redshirting him last year was just the perfect thing to do, because his versatility in the secondary this year is invaluable. He's playing 100% of the snaps because we can put him on the outside and in the slot, shifting him all over the place on every drive. While, for now, we also play him a lot on special teams. Nelson has challenged everything, and seems to have the superior technique over Gaines. Nelson is also incredibly demonstrative and energetic on the field -- a perfect pairing with Peters, and that is turning out to be a 3rd rounder well spent.

DJ White, also. We have to talk about this kid. He's played like 12 defensive snaps for us so far this year and has made plays on roughly half of them. Like Nelson, he is an incredible competitor and so energetic on the field. His play against the Chargers (on his one snap!) was around the time the defense woke up. I love this kid, I think he's a pistol and he should definitely be in the rotation in dime packages over Sorensen.

The Russell thing still makes no sense to me, but it's really regretful that he didn't wake the **** up because having yet another young corner who can play would have really bulked up this secondary.

My favorite thing about this secondary is my favorite thing about our offensive line, our defensive line, our receivers, and our passrush: barring any tragic injuries, they're going to be so much better in Week 17 than they are now. They'll learn with our great coaching staff, they'll develop with playing time, and they'll gel better as a unit and as Sutton figures out where all the pieces fit.

If we can at least limp into the playoffs with a fully healthy Houston in January, we can hang with absolutely AFC team -- except perhaps the Pats, who seem to have successfully hacked the game of football.

That's our ceiling, though. Pretty exciting.
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Old 09-29-2016, 07:19 AM   #2
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Old 09-29-2016, 07:39 AM   #3
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You're not wrong about any of that, but don't underrate Sorensen. Even he has played well this season...
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Old 09-29-2016, 10:14 AM   #4
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You're not wrong about any of that, but don't underrate Sorensen. Even he has played well this season...
Ya missing that pick on one of the Jet's last drives that could have sealed it but then catching an INT on 4th to lose 22 yards was impressive.
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Old 09-29-2016, 10:34 AM   #5
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don't underrate Sorensen.
I've never understood the Sorenson hate. He's a serviceable backup, quality special teamer who's filled in well when needed and has never looked like a liability.

I think people brush him off because he's white.
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Old 09-29-2016, 10:36 AM   #6
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I've never understood the Sorenson hate. He's a serviceable backup, quality special teamer who's filled in well when needed and has never looked like a liability.

I think people brush him off because he's white.
He did have his struggles early on when he would get playing time, and like usual everybody overreacted.
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Old 09-29-2016, 11:15 AM   #7
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I've never understood the Sorenson hate. He's a serviceable backup, quality special teamer who's filled in well when needed and has never looked like a liability.

I think people brush him off because he's white.
It's ridiculous. I swear, if the Chiefs don't have a bonafide Pro Bowler at each position, the player must suck.

It's ****ing stupid.

And Sorenson is everything you mentioned AND he's improved as a player each game and each season.
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Old 09-30-2016, 05:31 PM   #8
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I've never understood the Sorenson hate. He's a serviceable backup, quality special teamer who's filled in well when needed and has never looked like a liability.

I think people brush him off because he's white.
Glad I read on a few posts. I couldn't agree more.
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Old 09-30-2016, 05:45 PM   #9
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I've never understood the Sorenson hate.
He ain't Sabby....
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Old 09-29-2016, 07:57 AM   #10
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Watching the game live you can follow players a lot better. Gaines looked atrocious to me, he had a few plays where he doesn't look back and got burnt. Maybe I'm missing something.
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Old 09-29-2016, 09:54 AM   #11
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Watching the game live you can follow players a lot better. Gaines looked atrocious to me, he had a few plays where he doesn't look back and got burnt. Maybe I'm missing something.
So you watched Gaines the entire game?
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Old 09-29-2016, 05:38 PM   #12
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Watching the game live you can follow players a lot better. Gaines looked atrocious to me, he had a few plays where he doesn't look back and got burnt. Maybe I'm missing something.
Pretty sure your missing a brain stem .
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Old 09-29-2016, 08:17 AM   #13
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You mean the PI he got because Fitz threw a wounded duck. Those kind of calls infuriate me. (Yes i know he needs to turn, but a 10 yard underthrown ball shouldn't get a PI.
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Old 09-29-2016, 08:35 AM   #14
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You mean the PI he got because Fitz threw a wounded duck. Those kind of calls infuriate me. (Yes i know he needs to turn, but a 10 yard underthrown ball shouldn't get a PI.
Faceguarding is allowed now right? I know it is, it's just confusing because it seems like they still call it sometimes. I think when a defender has his back turned to the ball they're much more likely to draw a flag whether it's legal or not. It just looks awkward.
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Old 09-29-2016, 09:44 AM   #15
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Faceguarding is allowed now right? I know it is, it's just confusing because it seems like they still call it sometimes. I think when a defender has his back turned to the ball they're much more likely to draw a flag whether it's legal or not. It just looks awkward.
When did this rule change?I thought you had to turn your head and look for the ball
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