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Old 10-31-2016, 10:45 AM   Topic Starter
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Jaime Collins to the browns
Per schefter, pats sent Jaime Collins to browns for 3rd round pick

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Old 10-31-2016, 10:46 AM   #2
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So does Bill not think this guy could help him win a Super Bowl this year or...?
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Old 10-31-2016, 05:33 PM   #3
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At least one Patriots player can’t make sense of Bill Belichick’s decision to trade linebacker Jamie Collins.

Patriots safety Devin McCourty said today that he couldn’t believe it when he learned that Collins had been traded to the Browns.

“Jamie is arguably our best defensive player,” McCourty told CSNNE.com. “When you get a guy like Jamie who was here for four years on the team, a very productive player, to lose him is a bit shocking to everybody on the team.”

Belichick has a good track record for knowing when it’s time to bid farewell to a veteran player. But that doesn’t mean the other players in the locker room have to like it.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...e-is-shocking/
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What? Why?

Collins is good.

All Belichick does is win so it seems untoward to criticize him, but jesus - you've traded Jones and Collins for very little in return now (Cooper who was waived outright and now a 3rd). It's a Super Bowl team and even if you can't get those guys re-signed, they're absolutely going to help you this season.

I just don't get it at all.
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This puts a dent in their super bowl chances this year. I don't get it. Brady is old. Win now?
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This puts a dent in their super bowl chances this year. I don't get it. Brady is old. Win now?
Recall that Goodell promised them a Super Bowl for taking a dive last year in the AFC championship game.
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What? Why?

Collins is good.

All Belichick does is win so it seems untoward to criticize him, but jesus - you've traded Jones and Collins for very little in return now (Cooper who was waived outright and now a 3rd). It's a Super Bowl team and even if you can't get those guys re-signed, they're absolutely going to help you this season.

I just don't get it at all.
$70 million with rollover in cap space but look at their FA's this spring:

Marcellus Bennett
LaGarrette Blount
Duran Harmon
Donta Hightower
Logan Ryan
Sebastian Vollmer
Jabaal Sheard

Looks like Bill knows he'll get insane $$ and wants to keep his pass rushers, tackles, weapons and corners over an ILB.
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$70 million with rollover in cap space but look at their FA's this spring:

Marcellus Bennett
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Duran Harmon
Donta Hightower
Logan Ryan
Sebastian Vollmer
Jabaal Sheard

Looks like Bill knows he'll get insane $$ and wants to keep his pass rushers, tackles, weapons and corners over an ILB.
Collins is the best player in that group, IMO.

Hell, maybe he'll just try to re-sign him in the off-season but that has nothing to do with what happens this January. It sure seems like he's a guy you'd like to have on the squad during those bad weather games in Foxboro when guys are looking to keep your offense on the sidelines.

It's BB hubris. The **** of it all is that it works more often than not.
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Collins is the best player in that group, IMO.

Hell, maybe he'll just try to re-sign him in the off-season but that has nothing to do with what happens this January. It sure seems like he's a guy you'd like to have on the squad during those bad weather games in Foxboro when guys are looking to keep your offense on the sidelines.

It's BB hubris. The **** of it all is that it works more often than not.
Remember a couple years ago when he trade for Akeem Ayers and made him really good? I think he thinks he can do that with Van Noy or a draft pick.

It'll probably work too bc Patriots
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It's BB hubris. The **** of it all is that it works more often than not.

These two sentences make no sense together. Hope you know that.
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