Electronics Need Camcorder Advice For Live Music

Dinny Bossa Nova · 11-22-2016, 08:20 PM

I'm leaning heavily towards one of these;

https://www.amazon.com/Canon-VIXIA-H...n+vixia+hf+g40

I want to use this camera to record myself practicing in the living room as well as record the full band at a live performance.

I am figuring I will have to add a suitable stereo mic. Need advice on that, too.

Dinny

Dinny Bossa Nova · 11-22-2016, 08:39 PM

It's been almost 20 minutes.

I was expecting more ouchy'all.

Dinny

In58men · 11-22-2016, 08:58 PM

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**SAUTO** · 11-22-2016, 09:34 PM

I recorded myself "practicing" in the living room once.

stevieray · 11-22-2016, 09:35 PM

if you can, record at a low level.

**SAUTO** · 11-22-2016, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

if you can, record at a low level.

I did, that was the problem

eDave · 11-22-2016, 09:50 PM

Why not a go-pro?

Dinny Bossa Nova · 11-23-2016, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave

Why not a go-pro?

I was trying to figure a way to work this into the tread title.

The lens on the GoPro seems small like an iPhone or some such. Do the mics do well with high SPLs?

I'm also wondering if I'll be ~$700 happier with the Canon.

Dinny

Psyko Tek · 11-22-2016, 10:19 PM

Use the same one you do for home porn

displacedinMN · 11-22-2016, 10:27 PM

There was a camcorder that had a bluetooth mic for better sound. I do not know if it is still made.

ghak99 · 11-22-2016, 10:41 PM

Unless you're going to get serious, you'd be surprised what a middle of the road Sennheiser or even a cheaper Rode mic will collect. Even if your camera limits you to the 3.5 input, they can still pull in some decent sound depending on the area you're in.

rabblerouser · 11-23-2016, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ghak99

Unless you're going to get serious, you'd be surprised what a middle of the road Sennheiser or even a cheaper Rode mic will collect. Even if your camera limits you to the 3.5 input, they can still pull in some decent sound depending on the area you're in.

I use CA-14 omnis, termed down to 3.5 and I record @24/96 WAV PCM on a Tascam dr2d. Works great for live performances/demos/etc

Dinny Bossa Nova · 11-23-2016, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghak99

Unless you're going to get serious, you'd be surprised what a middle of the road Sennheiser or even a cheaper Rode mic will collect. Even if your camera limits you to the 3.5 input, they can still pull in some decent sound depending on the area you're in.

This is what I was thinking would be better than the GoPro. A mic like this on the Canon should make tons better looking and sounding footage.

Dinny

ghak99 · 11-23-2016, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dinny Bossa Nova

This is what I was thinking would be better than the GoPro. A mic like this on the Canon should make tons better looking and sounding footage.

Dinny

No way in hell would I try to do what you're wanting to do with a go pro, and I own 3 of the over priced little ****ers.

I assume some of your live performances will be under fairly low light? If that's the case, you might want to get your hands on one of these cameras and make sure you're happy with the noise in the footage in low light situations. In the past, Canon has definitely had the upper hand over the equivalent Sony with regards to the actual in the field lux ratings.

I don't know what kind of shows you do, but I bet you'll eventually want to run a mic on your camera as well as an audio recorder similar to what rabble mentioned earlier and have them mixed into something more appealing to whoever your audience is.

rabblerouser · 11-24-2016, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ghak99

No way in hell would I try to do what you're wanting to do with a go pro, and I own 3 of the over priced little ****ers.

I assume some of your live performances will be under fairly low light? If that's the case, you might want to get your hands on one of these cameras and make sure you're happy with the noise in the footage in low light situations. In the past, Canon has definitely had the upper hand over the equivalent Sony with regards to the actual in the field lux ratings.

I don't know what kind of shows you do, but I bet you'll eventually want to run a mic on your camera as well as an audio recorder similar to what rabble mentioned earlier and have them mixed into something more appealing to whoever your audience is.

Get this and a low priced Tascam PCM recorder. Do the audio separately and sync them later in post :

http://www.church-audio.com/viewitem.php?productid=21

You'll be much happier in the long run.

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