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Old 12-01-2016, 11:40 AM   Topic Starter
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Analyzing Tyreek Hill's improbable tying TD

So I watched NFL films version of this game and got a few gif's. While watching this, it really made me realize how crazy and fortunate we were on the Tyreek Hill tying TD play.
Looking more in depth revealed some important (even critical) details:

1. Roby should have been called for PI. He hit Hill's helmet and grabbed his left shoulder area. I honestly have no idea how Hill caught this ball.
Roby flies over him and nearly bats the ball but barely misses. I don't know how the hell Hill saw the ball and grabbed it. It was a low pass with Roby right in his line of vision along with his head being hit. It's incredible that he caught this ball in the first place, but it was actually a good thing that this happened bc of where the ball was when Hill had control, thus the overturn of the call. Here's a few gifs showing this:





2. I didn't realize until today that Denver's DL Jared Crick actually tipped the ball. The ball was barely low enough and had enough velocity to make it to Hill without being batted away by Roby.



I don't think this pass is complete without the tip. It looks like it would have been higher and Roby would have got it. Another crazy circumstance that went our way.

3. Finally, seeing the entire play unfold, it was obvious that this was a designed 1 read to Hill. Alex looked at Hill the entire time from the time the ball was snapped.
Look at the bottom. Kelce is wide ****ing open. He clearly beat Darian Stewart by at least 2 steps. It wasn't even close. It would have been as easy TD.



The bottom routes by Kelce and Wilson were basically the exact play design Seattle ran when they lost the SB. That's a damn hard route to stop, especially against Kelce.

It worked and we won, but I really wish Alex would have changed Andy's play design and looked to Kelce. Everyone knew it was a blitz, however Kelce was by far the biggest matchup for us pre-snap.
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Old 12-01-2016, 11:49 AM   #2
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I really ****ing hate these designed one read bullshit plays.
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Old 12-01-2016, 11:54 AM   #3
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I really ****ing hate these designed one read bullshit plays.
Yep. We essentially lost the Tampa Bay game on a one read play.
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Old 12-01-2016, 10:24 PM   #4
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Yep. We essentially lost the Tampa Bay game on a one read play.


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Old 12-01-2016, 12:23 PM   #5
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I really ****ing hate these designed one read bullshit plays.
Especially with how many gigs he has available
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Old 12-01-2016, 12:24 PM   #6
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It was an all out blitz with a free blitzer from the right side. You don't have time for more than the first read. That's the right call
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Old 12-01-2016, 12:28 PM   #7
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It was an all out blitz with a free blitzer from the right side. You don't have time for more than the first read. That's the right call
That makes sense. But I really hope we aren't telegraphing our hot reads somehow.

The defender on Kelce sure seemed lackadaisical - like he somehow knew the ball was never going to Kelce on a blitz.
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Old 12-01-2016, 12:31 PM   #8
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That makes sense. But I really hope we aren't telegraphing our hot reads somehow.

The defender on Kelce sure seemed lackadaisical - like he somehow knew the ball was never going to Kelce on a blitz.
I would think if Denver was rushing heavier on the left side then the throw goes to Kelce. You need that lane to throw. And I can't believe it got tipped. I didn't know that until today as well
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Old 12-01-2016, 12:30 PM   #9
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It was an all out blitz with a free blitzer from the right side. You don't have time for more than the first read. That's the right call
This is true, but again with research we know Kelce is the best option. Alex should have seen this pre-snap.

Denver literally had everyone on the line but the 4 DB's on our guys. The correct play is Alex looking at Kelce and lofting it up for him to grab.
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Old 12-01-2016, 12:49 PM   #10
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I really ****ing hate these designed one read bullshit plays.
It wasn't.

There were two reads - Hill and Kelce on mirrored route concepts.

Smith liked his matchup with Hill better. It's a quick-hitter so he had 2 reads but once he decided on his preferred matchup, he really only has the time to make 1 throw.

It's kindof a necessary evil in tight spaces. You're just not going to have a lot of time to get through progressions from that spot on the field. That is actually a really good play design and play call. Perhaps Smith could've made a smarter pre-snap read but it was clear that he preferred the look he got on the Hill side of the formation.
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Old 12-01-2016, 11:49 AM   #11
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Interesting. Thanks for posting. Maybe this is our year - between this improbable pass and the doink, these are usually breaks that go against us.
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Ugh - that wide open Kelce is frustrating to look at.

I'm not so sure about the tip helping. The tip seems to divert the ball to the left in the picture, and slow it down so it floats more. If the tip doesn't happen I think Hill has to keep moving full speed to the right to get to the ball, instead of having to stop in his tracks, which leaves him out of interfering range. Of course knowing Alex he may have led Hill too much or thrown the ball into the ground.
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Kelce was wide the hell open. Damn.

That's a great breakdown of the catch. So many things had to happen just so for us to get the score there. I doubt we will see a play like that again for a long time.

But ultimately, man, what concentration by Hill, especially considering the situation and what was on the line. His play before that to get the first down on fourth and ten was ****ing nails, as well. This kid might just be legit.
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Kelce was wide the hell open. Damn.

That's a great breakdown of the catch. So many things had to happen just so for us to get the score there. I doubt we will see a play like that again for a long time.

But ultimately, man, what concentration by Hill, especially considering the situation and what was on the line. His play before that to get the first down on fourth and ten was ****ing nails, as well. This kid might just be legit.
Every game it seems like we're talking about missed opportunities that were there for Alex to make.

And yet every week these drooling reeruns are here telling me this is Reid's fault.
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