Chiefs Non-offensive-touchdowns

RippedmyFlesh · 12-23-2016, 07:12 PM

People talk about this like it is luck and I disagree.
The chiefs have the right combo of players and coaches to be successful at this. When it happens this often it can't be random.

This year, the Chiefs have returned four interceptions for touchdowns, and also scored via a fumble return, kickoff return, and punt return. That’s seven non-offensive touchdowns for Kansas City, the most in the league. In addition, Kansas City hasn’t allowed a single non-offensive touchdown, so the Chiefs obviously lead the league in net non-offensive touchdowns.

That’s a remarkable number: in fact, over the course of NFL history, only a handful of teams have been at +8 for the season. One of those, though, was this Chiefs team three years ago.

The 2013 Chiefs scored 11 NO tds and gave up zero for a net of 11 the highest in history. I think giving up non-offensive touchdowns is just a knife in the gut. I think as chief fans we are spoiled by not remembering that.

http://www.footballperspective.com/n...ve-touchdowns/

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 12-23-2016, 07:13 PM

So you're telling me we are a well-balanced team.

**New World Order** · 12-23-2016, 09:11 PM

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So you're telling me we are a well-balanced team.

Sandy Vagina · 12-23-2016, 09:17 PM

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RippedmyFlesh · 12-23-2016, 07:17 PM

No I am stating that the non-offensive touchdowns rate is historically good winning the chiefs many games. Balance would require a good/average offense.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 12-23-2016, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RippedmyFlesh

No I am stating that the non-offensive touchdowns rate is historically good winning the chiefs many games. Balance would require a good/average offense.

Sounds to me that if the D and ST are scoring as many TD's as the offense, then you do in fact have a "balanced team" or balanced productivity, anyway.

That said, shouldn't the ratio be "unbalanced"?

RippedmyFlesh · 12-23-2016, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagnabit

Sounds to me that if the D and ST are scoring as many TD's as the offense, then you do in fact have a "balanced team" or balanced productivity, anyway.

That said, shouldn't the ratio be "unbalanced"?

In a ideal world yes.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 12-23-2016, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RippedmyFlesh

In a ideal world yes.

Need to shore up that line and running game, get something going through the line as well as to the left and right of it.
Wouldn't hurt to have another high-end WR though I'm fairly confident that the current roster would fare better under a more capable signal-caller. Those guys are running all over the field, hands in the air, screaming "I'M OPEN, RIGHT HERE DUDE" to no avail.
Gotta' make those reads and see the whole picture regardless of whatever Reid has dialed-up. Sweet jeebus, one would hope that Reid's passing plays give the QB more than one option if needed.

RippedmyFlesh · 12-23-2016, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagnabit

Need to shore up that line and running game, get something going through the line as well as to the left and right of it.
Wouldn't hurt to have another high-end WR though I'm fairly confident that the current roster would fare better under a more capable signal-caller. Those guys are running all over the field, hands in the air, screaming "I'M OPEN, RIGHT HERE DUDE" to no avail.
Gotta' make those reads and see the whole picture regardless of whatever Reid has dialed-up. Sweet jeebus, one would hope that Reid's passing plays give the QB more than one option if needed.

It seems like they never rollout smith anymore. He seemed to throw better on the run than just sitting in the pocket.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 12-23-2016, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagnabit

Need to shore up that line and running game, get something going through the line as well as to the left and right of it.
Wouldn't hurt to have another high-end WR though I'm fairly confident that the current roster would fare better under a more capable signal-caller. Those guys are running all over the field, hands in the air, screaming "I'M OPEN, RIGHT HERE DUDE" to no avail.
Gotta' make those reads and see the whole picture regardless of whatever Reid has dialed-up. Sweet jeebus, one would hope that Reid's passing plays give the QB more than one option if needed.

Definitely lots of opportunities that Smith doesn't see because he's fixed on the pllay at hand. Wide recievers are open all over the place many times.

RippedmyFlesh · 12-23-2016, 07:22 PM

My main point is this isn't luck as some people seem to think. We may actually be on the same side on this.

RippedmyFlesh · 12-23-2016, 07:25 PM

Since 2013 the chiefs have scored 28 non-offensive touchdowns and given up 2. That net of 26 is twice the next best team. The chiefs are literally twice as good as the next best team at this. I think that is remarkable.

Sandy Vagina · 12-23-2016, 07:25 PM

just win games.. all the rest is whatevz

Hog's Gone Fishin · 12-23-2016, 07:25 PM

It's part of our strategy to score on Defense and special teams. Just like every other NFL and college team. We just have the playmakers to get it done.

RippedmyFlesh · 12-23-2016, 07:29 PM

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It's part of our strategy to score on Defense and special teams. Just like every other NFL and college team. We just have the playmakers to get it done.

I agree with you.
I think some credit goes to coaching.

12-23-2016, 07:12 PM	Topic Starter
RippedmyFlesh Veteran Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New York Casino cash: $10005817	Non-offensive-touchdowns People talk about this like it is luck and I disagree. The chiefs have the right combo of players and coaches to be successful at this. When it happens this often it can't be random. This year, the Chiefs have returned four interceptions for touchdowns, and also scored via a fumble return, kickoff return, and punt return. That’s seven non-offensive touchdowns for Kansas City, the most in the league. In addition, Kansas City hasn’t allowed a single non-offensive touchdown, so the Chiefs obviously lead the league in net non-offensive touchdowns. That’s a remarkable number: in fact, over the course of NFL history, only a handful of teams have been at +8 for the season. One of those, though, was this Chiefs team three years ago. The 2013 Chiefs scored 11 NO tds and gave up zero for a net of 11 the highest in history. I think giving up non-offensive touchdowns is just a knife in the gut. I think as chief fans we are spoiled by not remembering that. http://www.footballperspective.com/n...ve-touchdowns/
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12-23-2016, 07:13 PM	#2
TigeRRUppeRRcut Banned Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: 19th Hole Casino cash: $10004725	So you're telling me we are a well-balanced team.
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RippedmyFlesh Veteran Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New York Casino cash: $10005817	No I am stating that the non-offensive touchdowns rate is historically good winning the chiefs many games. Balance would require a good/average offense.
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RippedmyFlesh Veteran Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New York Casino cash: $10005817	My main point is this isn't luck as some people seem to think. We may actually be on the same side on this.
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RippedmyFlesh Veteran Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New York Casino cash: $10005817	Since 2013 the chiefs have scored 28 non-offensive touchdowns and given up 2. That net of 26 is twice the next best team. The chiefs are literally twice as good as the next best team at this. I think that is remarkable.
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12-23-2016, 07:25 PM	#14
Hog's Gone Fishin Fish are scared of me Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-1539523	It's part of our strategy to score on Defense and special teams. Just like every other NFL and college team. We just have the playmakers to get it done.
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