Chiefs Veach and the CBs, is he clueless?

Buckweath · 08-25-2018, 10:11 PM

He traded Peters, an All-pro cornerback, during the offseason, granted Hunt may have been behind that decision.

He signed Amerson who has looked absolutely dreadful so far. Dreadful even against backups.

And then anyone remember how he was saying that he felt good about stacking Will Redmond and Keith Reaser in regards to what was out there in the draft class. How does that sound now? Those guys look like our 7th and 8th CBs for a group that is not good to say the least.

I still dont get how he went from trying to sign Kyle Fuller to settling for Amerson.

Really, if he doesn't make a trade for a CB, I will really question him.

I feel good about the front seven even though I thought Ragland and Hitchens were not that good today, probably rusty.

But I think we know one bad starting CB can practically ruin an entire defense, right?

George Liquor · 08-25-2018, 10:22 PM

Trading Peters was reeruned.

I hope he helps the Rams win the Super Bowl.

Best22 · 08-25-2018, 10:46 PM

Yeah, the way he was talking I thought Redmond and Reaser may actually be worth a damn

If I was giving them all a rating (not that madden inflated bs) I'd say

Fuller: 86
Nelson: 72
Scandrick: 63
Amerson: 58
Smith: 59
Everyone else: 55 and below

For reference:
Prime Deion Sanders: 98
Marcus Peters: 90
Chris Harris: 92
Phil Gaines: 61
Terrance Mitchell: 70

Looking at this chart, we shouldn't have signed Amerson or Scandrick, and instead saved that money for Mitchell (assuming Peters remains traded, a decision which I find harder to justify everyday. I console myself with the "nobody else wanted him" narrative)

KChiefs1 · 08-26-2018, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Best22

Yeah, the way he was talking I thought Redmond and Reaser may actually be worth a damn

If I was giving them all a rating (not that madden inflated bs) I'd say

Fuller: 86
Nelson: 72
Scandrick: 63
Amerson: 58
Smith: 59
Everyone else: 55 and below

For reference:
Prime Deion Sanders: 98
Marcus Peters: 90
Chris Harris: 92
Phil Gaines: 61
Terrance Mitchell: 70

Looking at this chart, we shouldn't have signed Amerson or Scandrick, and instead saved that money for Mitchell (assuming Peters remains traded, a decision which I find harder to justify everyday. I console myself with the "nobody else wanted him" narrative)

I just keep thinking we could have Fuller & Peters at CB.

Red Dawg · 08-26-2018, 08:46 AM

If Veach plays long ball on building this defense then he's a damn dufuss. We are paying a QB nothing and that's the window. 19 and 20 he should be going for it.

RunKC · 08-26-2018, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg

If Veach plays long ball on building this defense then he's a damn dufuss. We are paying a QB nothing and that's the window. 19 and 20 he should be going for it.

Justin Houston and Eric Berry alone won’t be here when Mahomes gets his payday. That’s like $35 million opened up right there.

It has and will always come down to how well we can draft and develop

Best22 · 08-26-2018, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1

I just keep thinking we could have Fuller & Peters at CB.

Well, the "assumption" here is that he needed to go...

Chargem · 08-26-2018, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BDj23

Trading Peters was reeruned.

I hope he helps the Rams win the Super Bowl.

I hope the Rams crash and burn so the Chiefs get a better 2nd round draft pick in '19.

NJChiefsFan · 08-25-2018, 11:02 PM

My biggest issue right now with the position is for those saying we are building for the future, who exactly from the CB group is going to step up in the future? We very likely will go into next offseason needing to fill the exact holes we did this season, with no reason to expect a person on the roster to do so.

It's not even about patience, it's about not even seeing a light at the end of the tunnel at CB. Same thing with safety. Same thing with guard, unless you are counting Wylie or McKenzie. Next offseason could look very similar to this offseason in terms of need and lack of hope that the roster currently holds the solution.

Best22 · 08-25-2018, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

My biggest issue right now with the position is for those saying we are building for the future, who exactly from the CB group is going to step up in the future? We very likely will go into next offseason needing to fill the exact holes we did this season, with no reason to expect a person on the roster to do so.

It's not even about patience, it's about not even seeing a light at the end of the tunnel at CB. Same thing with safety. Same thing with guard, unless you are counting Wylie or McKenzie. Next offseason could look very similar to this offseason in terms of need and lack of hope that the roster currently holds the solution.

We have one corner. That's a start

Pablo · 08-25-2018, 11:41 PM

Amerson stands for the anthem. Case closed.

nychief · 08-26-2018, 12:45 AM

Clark ruined this defense by forcing the Peters trade. End of story.

Red Dawg · 08-26-2018, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by nychief

Clark ruined this defense by forcing the Peters trade. End of story.

It was terrible but Peters was not staying here anyway. So unless you think he's the missing peice to SB dreams then it doesn't matter. The bad thing is not bringing in another DB. The ones we had on the roster suck.

Eleazar · 08-26-2018, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by nychief

Clark ruined this defense by forcing the Peters trade. End of story.

The defense was near the bottom of the league even with Peters.

Buckweath · 08-26-2018, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar

The defense was near the bottom of the league even with Peters.

You dont get it. We had to add to the CB group, not replace a good CB by another good one and still have an underwhelming group.

08-25-2018, 10:11 PM	Topic Starter
Buckweath Veteran Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Quebec, Canada Casino cash: $9994975	Veach and the CBs, is he clueless? He traded Peters, an All-pro cornerback, during the offseason, granted Hunt may have been behind that decision. He signed Amerson who has looked absolutely dreadful so far. Dreadful even against backups. And then anyone remember how he was saying that he felt good about stacking Will Redmond and Keith Reaser in regards to what was out there in the draft class. How does that sound now? Those guys look like our 7th and 8th CBs for a group that is not good to say the least. I still dont get how he went from trying to sign Kyle Fuller to settling for Amerson. Really, if he doesn't make a trade for a CB, I will really question him. I feel good about the front seven even though I thought Ragland and Hitchens were not that good today, probably rusty. But I think we know one bad starting CB can practically ruin an entire defense, right?
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08-25-2018, 10:22 PM	#2
George Liquor Forklift Certified Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: House of the Rising Sun Casino cash: $-820150	Trading Peters was reeruned. I hope he helps the Rams win the Super Bowl.
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08-25-2018, 10:46 PM	#3
Best22 MVP Join Date: May 2016 Location: World Boxing Champs Casino cash: $1910400	Yeah, the way he was talking I thought Redmond and Reaser may actually be worth a damn If I was giving them all a rating (not that madden inflated bs) I'd say Fuller: 86 Nelson: 72 Scandrick: 63 Amerson: 58 Smith: 59 Everyone else: 55 and below For reference: Prime Deion Sanders: 98 Marcus Peters: 90 Chris Harris: 92 Phil Gaines: 61 Terrance Mitchell: 70 Looking at this chart, we shouldn't have signed Amerson or Scandrick, and instead saved that money for Mitchell (assuming Peters remains traded, a decision which I find harder to justify everyday. I console myself with the "nobody else wanted him" narrative)
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NJChiefsFan I've Made a Huge Mistake Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: NJ Casino cash: $4500423	My biggest issue right now with the position is for those saying we are building for the future, who exactly from the CB group is going to step up in the future? We very likely will go into next offseason needing to fill the exact holes we did this season, with no reason to expect a person on the roster to do so. It's not even about patience, it's about not even seeing a light at the end of the tunnel at CB. Same thing with safety. Same thing with guard, unless you are counting Wylie or McKenzie. Next offseason could look very similar to this offseason in terms of need and lack of hope that the roster currently holds the solution.
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08-25-2018, 11:41 PM	#11
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08-26-2018, 12:45 AM	#12
nychief MVP Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NYC Casino cash: $5399466	Clark ruined this defense by forcing the Peters trade. End of story. __________________ Good Time Charlie, Uncle Doobie and the Great Frisco Freakout.
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