Chiefs The Chiefs should trade for Tyrann Mathieu

carcosa · 09-30-2018, 09:29 PM

Third thread's a charm, right?

The facts are these:

1. The Chiefs desperately need an upgrade at safety.

2. They were very close to trading for Earl Thomas, which shows that they know they desperately need an upgrade at safety.

3. Tyrann Mathieu is not quite Earl Thomas, but he has a history of high level play and this year has as many interceptions as the entire Chiefs defense and a rating of 72.3 from PFF, which qualifies as "Good."

4. Eric Murray has a 58.1 rating, which feels extremely generous. (Ron Parker has a 58.5)

5. Mathieu is on a one year contract, which means it wouldn't take a very high pick to get him.

6. Mathieu is also 26, which means he could be extended and become a long term upgrade.

7. Veach expressed interest in Mathieu this past offseason:

Veach says he's interested in Tyrann Matthieu if he can make the money work.
— Matt Derrick (@mattderrick) March 14, 2018

8. Veach has already established a pattern of getting guys on the second or third try (see Watkins, Hitchens)

9. The Texans are going nowhere this season. If they lose a few more games, they can safely be considered sellers.

10. Perhaps most importantly, THE CHIEFS DESPERATELY NEED AN UPGRADE AT SAFETY

So, how many posts to make this happen???

pugsnotdrugs19 · 09-30-2018, 09:29 PM

Let’s do it!

carcosa · 09-30-2018, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Let’s do it!

Thank you!

htismaqe · 09-30-2018, 09:31 PM

To the JUNK!

saphojunkie · 10-01-2018, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

To the JUNK!

Men have conquered the oceans on less.

ToxSocks · 09-30-2018, 09:31 PM

Why, has he been good this year?

carcosa · 09-30-2018, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Why, has he been good this year?

According to PFF, he has been "Good."

Sassy Squatch · 09-30-2018, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Why, has he been good this year?

A hell of a lot better than Murray.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-30-2018, 09:32 PM

With how the NFL is changing, the Chiefs probably only have a two or three year window with this group of skill position players given that Mahomes is on a cheap deal. If he's as good as people think, they'll be able to compete for years after, but it would be extremely hard for them to find a group of skill position players like this, given the salaries they'll command.

They should make as many moves like this as they can.

carcosa · 09-30-2018, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

With how the NFL is changing, the Chiefs probably only have a two or three year window with this group of skill position players given that Mahomes is on a cheap deal. If he's as good as people think, they'll be able to compete for years after, but it would be extremely hard for them to find a group of skill position players like this, given the salaries they'll command.

They should make as many moves like this as they can.

Yes!

pugsnotdrugs19 · 09-30-2018, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

With how the NFL is changing, the Chiefs probably only have a two or three year window with this group of skill position players given that Mahomes is on a cheap deal. If he's as good as people think, they'll be able to compete for years after, but it would be extremely hard for them to find a group of skill position players like this, given the salaries they'll command.

They should make as many moves like this as they can.

He’ll never have weapons as good as this group again in his career. Period.

That said, the defense has a ton of room to improve which also would help him over the years.

htismaqe · 09-30-2018, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

With how the NFL is changing, the Chiefs probably only have a two or three year window with this group of skill position players given that Mahomes is on a cheap deal. If he's as good as people think, they'll be able to compete for years after, but it would be extremely hard for them to find a group of skill position players like this, given the salaries they'll command.

They should make as many moves like this as they can.

carcosa · 09-30-2018, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

NWTF · 09-30-2018, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

With how the NFL is changing, the Chiefs probably only have a two or three year window with this group of skill position players given that Mahomes is on a cheap deal. If he's as good as people think, they'll be able to compete for years after, but it would be extremely hard for them to find a group of skill position players like this, given the salaries they'll command.

They should make as many moves like this as they can.

100% Agree.

Why Not? · 09-30-2018, 09:34 PM

Not happening. At least not for a few weeks. Had the Texans lost today, maybe. But they'll need to be 1-5 or so before they throw in the towel.

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carcosa Thank you Join Date: May 2014 Casino cash: $2273695	The Chiefs should trade for Tyrann Mathieu Third thread's a charm, right? The facts are these: 1. The Chiefs desperately need an upgrade at safety. 2. They were very close to trading for Earl Thomas, which shows that they know they desperately need an upgrade at safety. 3. Tyrann Mathieu is not quite Earl Thomas, but he has a history of high level play and this year has as many interceptions as the entire Chiefs defense and a rating of 72.3 from PFF, which qualifies as "Good." 4. Eric Murray has a 58.1 rating, which feels extremely generous. (Ron Parker has a 58.5) 5. Mathieu is on a one year contract, which means it wouldn't take a very high pick to get him. 6. Mathieu is also 26, which means he could be extended and become a long term upgrade. 7. Veach expressed interest in Mathieu this past offseason: Veach says he's interested in Tyrann Matthieu if he can make the money work. — Matt Derrick (@mattderrick) March 14, 2018 8. Veach has already established a pattern of getting guys on the second or third try (see Watkins, Hitchens) 9. The Texans are going nowhere this season. If they lose a few more games, they can safely be considered sellers. 10. Perhaps most importantly, THE CHIEFS DESPERATELY NEED AN UPGRADE AT SAFETY So, how many posts to make this happen???
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