Chiefs Hypothetical Part 3: Equivalent value for Patrick Mahomes II.

**Rain Man** · 11-24-2018, 02:25 PM

Hypothetical Part 3: Equivalent value for Patrick Mahomes II.

This is the third poll in a six-part series.

Okay, we're not trading our franchise quarterback. Let's make that clear.

But if other teams were making us good-faith trade offers, what would be a fair offer? I've done the following to make some estimated trade packages, using the following algorithms.

I went to the NFL Network Top 100 players of last year. Recognizing that it includes some old declining players and at least one player who can't walk very well, and recognizing that Patrick Mahomes II is a young franchise quarterback, I'm assuming that Patrick Mahomes II is worth more than any player on the list, and generally worth much more.

If a team had three players on the list, I packaged those three players into an offer.

If a team had two players on the list, I added their 1st round pick from 2018.

If a team had one or zero players on the list, I packaged future 1st round picks so that the Chiefs would get three players in total.

If a team had more than three players on the list, I put together packages that added players in different scenarios until all of their top 100 players were included in a package.

By doing this, I came up with 60 total trade offers. I'll put them up in groups of 10, and your job is to assess whether or not it would be an equal or greater value than our own Patrick Mahomes II.

Important rule: Don't consider this poll as indicating that you would ACCEPT such a trade offer. Because trading Patrick Mahomes II would be insane. Just tell us whether you think those players would add equivalent value to the franchise.

Here's your third set of ten scenarios. The Jaguars and the Rams are upping their offer by throwing in Leonard Fournette and Aqib Talib on top of their previous offers.

Sofa King · 11-24-2018, 02:27 PM

Hard to vote without a poll!

Sofa King · 11-24-2018, 02:27 PM

Where's the poll?

Sofa King · 11-24-2018, 02:27 PM

Seriously, i don't see one.

St. Patty's Fire · 11-24-2018, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Sofa King

Seriously, i don't see one.

Please have some patience. Rain Man is very nice. Thank u.

Sofa King · 11-24-2018, 02:28 PM

OK, now I'm getting angry.

**Rain Man** · 11-24-2018, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Sofa King

OK, now I'm getting angry.

I hadn't preheated the poll oven, so it took a little longer than I expected.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 11-24-2018, 02:28 PM

Inb4poll

**New World Order** · 11-24-2018, 02:31 PM

Before I see the poll it would have to be something like Russell Wilson + Bobby Wager + 2020 1st rounder

But even then I wouldn't do it

**Rain Man** · 11-24-2018, 02:33 PM

I considered the Rams' initial offer, but couldn't vote for it. Throwing in Talib doesn't add much to the offer since I don't like Talib and he's old.

The Texans are putting up a legit offer, though, and they're the first one I've voted for. I wouldn't take the trade because we have Patrick Mahomes II, but that one makes me think.

The Steelers are throwing some big names out there, but Rapist is old and Bell is a locker room cancer. No thanks.

CasselGotPeedOn · 11-24-2018, 02:33 PM

On the Jags one, throw in Bortles and we've got a deal.

Best22 · 11-24-2018, 02:36 PM

Texans? Wow

I swear people just don’t realize how awesome Pat is.

Deshaun is amazing but he’s no Mahomes.

dlphg9 · 11-24-2018, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Best22

Texans? Wow

I swear people just don’t realize how awesome Pat is.

Deshaun is amazing but he’s no Mahomes.

I'd take Goff over Watson any day of the week

**New World Order** · 11-24-2018, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn

On the Jags one, throw in Bortles and we've got a deal.

CoMoChief · 11-24-2018, 02:51 PM

I would only consider the Rams offer, but it'd have to include a 1st rd pick too.

View Poll Results: These packages reflect good trade value for P. Mahomes II. (Check all that apply.)
Vikings - Adam Thielen + Harrison Smith + Xavier Rhodes	0	0%
Buccaneers - Vita Vea + 2019 1st Round + 2020 1st Round	0	0%
Colts - Quenton Nelson + 2019 1st Round + 2020 1st Round	0	0%
Rams - Todd Gurley + Aaron Donald + Jared Goff + Aqib Talib	24	42.11%
Cowboys - Demarcus Lawrence + Tyron Smith + Ezekiel Elliott	0	0%
49ers - Richard Sherman + Jimmy Garoppolo + Mike McGlinchey	0	0%
Redskins - Trent Williams + Ha-Ha Clinton-Dix + Da'Ron Payne	0	0%
Jaguars - Calais Campbell + Jalen Ramsey + AJ Bouye + Leonard Fournette	1	1.75%
Steelers - Antonio Brown + Le'veon Bell + Ben Roethlisberger	2	3.51%
Texans - Deandre Hopkins + Jadaveon Clowney + Deshaun Watson	4	7.02%
None of these represent equivalent value for Patrick Mahomes II.	26	45.61%
I once saw Patrick Mahomes throw a ball 69 yards in the air.	16	28.07%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 57. You may not vote on this poll

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Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $-452449 VARSITY	Hypothetical Part 3: Equivalent value for Patrick Mahomes II. Hypothetical Part 3: Equivalent value for Patrick Mahomes II. This is the third poll in a six-part series. Okay, we're not trading our franchise quarterback. Let's make that clear. But if other teams were making us good-faith trade offers, what would be a fair offer? I've done the following to make some estimated trade packages, using the following algorithms. I went to the NFL Network Top 100 players of last year. Recognizing that it includes some old declining players and at least one player who can't walk very well, and recognizing that Patrick Mahomes II is a young franchise quarterback, I'm assuming that Patrick Mahomes II is worth more than any player on the list, and generally worth much more. If a team had three players on the list, I packaged those three players into an offer. If a team had two players on the list, I added their 1st round pick from 2018. If a team had one or zero players on the list, I packaged future 1st round picks so that the Chiefs would get three players in total. If a team had more than three players on the list, I put together packages that added players in different scenarios until all of their top 100 players were included in a package. By doing this, I came up with 60 total trade offers. I'll put them up in groups of 10, and your job is to assess whether or not it would be an equal or greater value than our own Patrick Mahomes II. Important rule: Don't consider this poll as indicating that you would ACCEPT such a trade offer. Because trading Patrick Mahomes II would be insane. Just tell us whether you think those players would add equivalent value to the franchise. Here's your third set of ten scenarios. The Jaguars and the Rams are upping their offer by throwing in Leonard Fournette and Aqib Talib on top of their previous offers.
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11-24-2018, 02:27 PM	#2
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Sofa King Bump it Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South Dakota Casino cash: $-200000 VARSITY	Where's the poll?
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Sofa King Bump it Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South Dakota Casino cash: $-200000 VARSITY	Seriously, i don't see one.
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Sofa King Bump it Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South Dakota Casino cash: $-200000 VARSITY	OK, now I'm getting angry.
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11-24-2018, 02:33 PM	#10
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $-452449 VARSITY	I considered the Rams' initial offer, but couldn't vote for it. Throwing in Talib doesn't add much to the offer since I don't like Talib and he's old. The Texans are putting up a legit offer, though, and they're the first one I've voted for. I wouldn't take the trade because we have Patrick Mahomes II, but that one makes me think. The Steelers are throwing some big names out there, but Rapist is old and Bell is a locker room cancer. No thanks. __________________ Active fan of the greatest team in NFL history.
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CasselGotPeedOn Your mom Join Date: Nov 2016 Casino cash: $-1879598	On the Jags one, throw in Bortles and we've got a deal.
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CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $7712254	I would only consider the Rams offer, but it'd have to include a 1st rd pick too. __________________
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