Chiefs Let’s talk about ways to get this team back on the Super Bowl track tonight

pugsnotdrugs19 · 04-26-2019, 08:46 AM

First off, I’m operating under the assumption that we’ve seen Tyreek Hill play his final snap in KC as of right now. And barring unforeseen news to come, that is how it needs to be. If you choose to believe otherwise, that’s your call. But for the sake of being realistic, Hill is a goner.

I won’t understate that blow. He’s been the most explosive playmaker in the NFL for 2-3 years now. He changes the game unlike anyone else. He will not be replaced.

But that doesn’t mean that this team can’t find other ways to get back on track. So here is what I am looking at heading into Friday night:

1. Mahomes means we’re still in a good spot

Let us not forget that Patrick looked ****ing awesome in his first start in Denver with nothing but backups around him. He basically got Albert Wilson a 50% raise that day, I would say. Things will get tougher for him and the offense now, but he can still carry us to being a top 10 offense at minimum. We still have some star playmakers on the roster and an above average offensive line. Now onto the draft....

2. Lots of good, athletic receivers left

Here is a list of some of the best WR prospects remaining along with their 40-yard dash times to the right. I think Andy will want to add a field stretching WR to this roster in order to best match up with Mahomes, so speed is very important:

- Parris Campbell (4.31)
- Andy Isabella (4.31)
- Mecole Hardman (4.33)
- D.K. Metcalf (4.33)
- Terry McClaurin (4.35)
- Emmanuel Hall (4.39)
- Darius Slayton (4.39)
- Myles Boykin (4.42 and some FREAKY agility times as well)
- Hakeem Butler (4.48)
- Deebo Samuel (4.48 and just a stud in general)
- A.J. Brown (4.49, stud player like Samuel)

Point being, there are some really athletic players left at WR who, while not close to Hill, could still come in day one and present a vertical threat for Mahomes and Andy to work with.

3. Lots of good corners and safeties remain as well

Another huge need that has some depth here on day two... here are some solid players available:

- Byron Murphy
- Greedy Williams
- Amani Oruwariye
- Rock Ya-Sin
- Joejuan Williams
- Sean Bunting
- Justin Layne
- Julian Love
- Trayvon Mullen
- Lonnie Johnson Jr.
- Nasir Adderley
- Chauncey Gardner-Johnson
- Taylor Rapp
- Juan Thornhill

And even a few more who could make an impact potentially from day one. If the Chiefs want to build up the defense even more to take pressure off of the offense this year, options remain...

4. Possible established trade targets?

I doubt it happens but we’ve still got possible veteran fixes out there such as Patrick Peterson or A.J. Green... not sure if their teams would trade them right now, but its possible... and even if not, they may do so during the summer.

So tonight, the Chiefs should have a great chance to stock up on talent that can help immediately in 2019. They could go WR/CB/TE straight up, they could take two WRs even to hedge their bets there with a DB or TE later, or they could use picks to go get an established veteran today... who really knows.

This team isn’t dead yet, though. Let’s see where things are later. Even with Hill on his way out, Kansas City can reset and contend with the right moves, IMO.

carcosa · 04-26-2019, 08:53 AM

Hell yeah brother!!! Losing Hill sucks big time but having Mahomes means this can still be an elite offense. We're just not used to having an actual QB, so it's hard to wrap our minds around that fact. But it's true!!!

It probably won't happen, but I'd ****ing love if we traded for AJ Green. That would be the sort of move that puts us right back where we were, contender-wise.

TwistedChief · 04-26-2019, 08:55 AM

First, great post and timing.

I have no hope for Hill so think we need to replace him. And given that so much of Reid's playbook is tailored around using his speed, we REALLY need to draft a burner today in the Hill mold (I know no one is Hill as we saw from our Dex and DAT experiment). So important to get that right and I'm fine giving up a lot of draft capital to do it.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 04-26-2019, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief

First, great post and timing.

I have no hope for Hill so think we need to replace him. And given that so much of Reid's playbook is tailored around using his speed, we REALLY need to draft a burner today in the Hill mold (I know no one is Hill as we saw from our Dex and DAT experiment). So important to get that right and I'm fine giving up a lot of draft capital to do it.

See? THIS guy( the OP )has an idea or ideas. Was that so ****ing hard? But, you're a follower so I don't expect anything from you anyway.

Reerun_KC · 04-26-2019, 08:57 AM

O.city · 04-26-2019, 08:57 AM

You aren’t gonna replace hill so don’t try. Stick to your board and don’t panic

pugsnotdrugs19 · 04-26-2019, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

You aren’t gonna replace hill so don’t try. Stick to your board and don’t panic

Obviously not but they do need a field stretcher. With Mahomes it is critical I would say.

O.city · 04-26-2019, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Obviously not but they do need a field stretcher. With Mahomes it is critical I would say.

Sure

But you needed that anyway

Simply Red · 04-26-2019, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Obviously not but they do need a field stretcher. With Mahomes it is critical I would say.

I did a full analysis of all avail. Youtube vids last night on Deebo. I feel like I need to pump the brakes on Deebo a little. He's more of a utility guy; I think it'd make sense if we needed a KR as well. I'm not sure he's not Robinson's upside. I'd like to see us focus on on AJ Brown or Campbell.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 04-26-2019, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red

I did a full analysis of all avail. Youtube vids last night on Deebo. I feel like I need to pump the brakes on Deebo a little. He's more of a utility guy; I think it'd make sense if we needed a KR as well. I'm not sure he's not Robinson's upside. I'd like to see us focus on on AJ Brown or Campbell.

I see Deebo as a pure slot Jarvis Landry type. Nothing wrong with that, but no, not a deep threat really by nature.

Simply Red · 04-26-2019, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

I see Deebo as a pure slot Jarvis Landry type. Nothing wrong with that, but no, not a deep threat really by nature.

agreed and I was disillusioned due to his big KR's last season. Back peddling over here.

Simply Red · 04-26-2019, 11:05 AM

If we could work a deal to get PP w/ some of next drafts' picks - I'd be perfectly fine w/ Justice Hill in the 3rd. Should he fall (& I think he might)

**Easy 6** · 04-26-2019, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

You aren’t gonna replace hill so don’t try. Stick to your board and don’t panic

Sounds great on paper, but we just don’t have the WR depth to ignore the glaring hole we’re suddenly faced with

Redbled · 04-26-2019, 08:57 AM

I like what I've heard about Isabella. I think the Chiefs need to add 2 receivers prior to the season. I'd be ok nabbing a vet on a short deal.

Redbled · 04-26-2019, 09:00 AM

Speculation Murphy goes to the Cards. Would that make them more open to lowering their price on PP?

04-26-2019, 08:46 AM	Topic Starter
pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $6599447	Let’s talk about ways to get this team back on the Super Bowl track tonight First off, I’m operating under the assumption that we’ve seen Tyreek Hill play his final snap in KC as of right now. And barring unforeseen news to come, that is how it needs to be. If you choose to believe otherwise, that’s your call. But for the sake of being realistic, Hill is a goner. I won’t understate that blow. He’s been the most explosive playmaker in the NFL for 2-3 years now. He changes the game unlike anyone else. He will not be replaced. But that doesn’t mean that this team can’t find other ways to get back on track. So here is what I am looking at heading into Friday night: 1. Mahomes means we’re still in a good spot Let us not forget that Patrick looked **ing awesome in his first start in Denver with nothing but backups around him. He basically got Albert Wilson a 50% raise that day, I would say. Things will get tougher for him and the offense now, but he can still carry us to being a top 10 offense at minimum. We still have some star playmakers on the roster and an above average offensive line. Now onto the draft.... 2. Lots of good, athletic receivers left Here is a list of some of the best WR prospects remaining along with their 40-yard dash times to the right. I think Andy will want to add a field stretching WR to this roster in order to best match up with Mahomes, so speed is very important: - Parris Campbell (4.31) - Andy Isabella (4.31) - Mecole Hardman (4.33) - D.K. Metcalf (4.33) - Terry McClaurin (4.35) - Emmanuel Hall (4.39) - Darius Slayton (4.39) - Myles Boykin (4.42 and some FREAKY agility times as well) - Hakeem Butler (4.48) - Deebo Samuel (4.48 and just a stud in general) - A.J. Brown (4.49, stud player like Samuel) Point being, there are some really athletic players left at WR who, while not close to Hill, could still come in day one and present a vertical threat for Mahomes and Andy to work with. 3. Lots of good corners and safeties remain as well Another huge need that has some depth here on day two... here are some solid players available: - Byron Murphy - Greedy Williams - Amani Oruwariye - Rock Ya-Sin - Joejuan Williams - Sean Bunting - Justin Layne - Julian Love - Trayvon Mullen - Lonnie Johnson Jr. - Nasir Adderley - Chauncey Gardner-Johnson - Taylor Rapp - Juan Thornhill And even a few more who could make an impact potentially from day one. If the Chiefs want to build up the defense even more to take pressure off of the offense this year, options remain... 4. Possible established trade targets?** I doubt it happens but we’ve still got possible veteran fixes out there such as Patrick Peterson or A.J. Green... not sure if their teams would trade them right now, but its possible... and even if not, they may do so during the summer. So tonight, the Chiefs should have a great chance to stock up on talent that can help immediately in 2019. They could go WR/CB/TE straight up, they could take two WRs even to hedge their bets there with a DB or TE later, or they could use picks to go get an established veteran today... who really knows. This team isn’t dead yet, though. Let’s see where things are later. Even with Hill on his way out, Kansas City can reset and contend with the right moves, IMO.
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04-26-2019, 08:53 AM	#2
carcosa Thank you Join Date: May 2014 Casino cash: $-816305	Hell yeah brother!!! Losing Hill sucks big time but having Mahomes means this can still be an elite offense. We're just not used to having an actual QB, so it's hard to wrap our minds around that fact. But it's true!!! It probably won't happen, but I'd ****ing love if we traded for AJ Green. That would be the sort of move that puts us right back where we were, contender-wise.
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TwistedChief Why so serious? Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Chicago Casino cash: $-1449585	First, great post and timing. I have no hope for Hill so think we need to replace him. And given that so much of Reid's playbook is tailored around using his speed, we REALLY need to draft a burner today in the Hill mold (I know no one is Hill as we saw from our Dex and DAT experiment). So important to get that right and I'm fine giving up a lot of draft capital to do it.
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Redbled I missed '69! Join Date: Jun 2018 Casino cash: $6910400	Speculation Murphy goes to the Cards. Would that make them more open to lowering their price on PP?
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