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Old 08-03-2019, 05:26 PM   Topic Starter
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2017 QB Draft
The 2017 Draft turned out perfectly for us, clearly (Thank you Bengals et. al). The question is no longer who the best QB from that draft is; it's who is second-best between Watson and Trubisky, as evidenced by threads posing that question on each of their boards.

So, here's my question: Why in God's name did the Bears trade up one spot to take Mitch? What could possibly be the rationale here? There were ZERO other teams dumb enough to trade up to the #2 spot for him, so why not take his inferior ass at #3, especially given the insane amount of draft capital they gave up. I don't get it.
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Old 08-03-2019, 05:30 PM   #2
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It does seem odd. Maybe they had inside intelligence that alerted them another team was willing to trade to #2 so they had to beat them to the punch and offer a better package to secure what they thought was LOLOL the awesomeness.. It's really the only explanation.
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Old 08-03-2019, 05:40 PM   #3
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It does seem odd. Maybe they had inside intelligence that alerted them another team was willing to trade to #2 so they had to beat them to the punch and offer a better package to secure what they thought was LOLOL the awesomeness.. It's really the only explanation.
Suppose some team actually was stupid enough to move up for Tribs. WHO. GIVES. A. ****? Let them. You get to keep all your picks AND get at least as good of a prospect. This makes zero sense under any scenario.
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Old 08-03-2019, 05:34 PM   #4
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So, here's my question: Why in God's name did the Bears trade up one spot to take Mitch? What could possibly be the rationale here? There were ZERO other teams dumb enough to trade up to the #2 spot for him, so why not take his inferior ass at #3, especially given the insane amount of draft capital they gave up. I don't get it.
I said it the moment it happened, and again later and I'll repeat it again. I have no idea why the **** the Bears traded what they did to move up one spot to secure Trubisky. They could have moved down and still got him, if anything.

Right now I think the #2 QB from the draft is Watson, but that could change by the end of this upcoming season. Tittiekisser is getting more reps in a good system and has pretty good options to work with.

Meanwhile in Houston, that line is still shit and really outside of Hopkins playing out of his mind none of Watson's weapons are worth a ****. The Texans need to wake up and fire BoB and get him some quality coaching.
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Old 08-03-2019, 05:48 PM   #5
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The Bears created a bidding war for Trubisky with themselves. The simple answer is Ryan Pace is a complete butt****ing moron.

After 4.5 years of working from home in Chicago, I'm now being required to work out of an office 2-3 days a week. I'm not happy about it, but the silver lining is that I have my work station looking like a ****ing shrine to Mahomes, which is soon to include a box of cereal I'm having shipped. Every time they want to get excited about Trubisky, they walk by my station and are reminded that they passed over what could've been their Aaron Rodgers (whom they hate) for Alex Smith. The looks on some of these wannabe Ditka's makes the commute halfway worth it.
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Old 08-03-2019, 05:45 PM   #6
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And your question is further complicated by the fact that the Bears had just signed Mike Glennon to a 3 year deal only a month prior to drafting Trubisky. And there was no change in coach, GM, or lead front office personnel from the previous spring. They had the exact same decision makers in place who would have done all of the regular season scouting in addition to checking out things like the combine, which were all events that took place BEFORE free agency.

So if Trubisky was truly THEIR GUY and they believed no other QB was good enough for them, then MAYBE the trade up makes sense, but the fact that they spent all that money on a 3 year deal for Mike ****ing Glennon really throws a wrench in the works there.

In any case, it was a clear case of indecision, lack of a coherent power structure, and a lack of communication on the part of the Bears. It wouldn't surprise me at all if that chaos and disorganization played a part in their dumbass trade up.
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Old 08-03-2019, 06:39 PM   #7
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This will go down as one of the worst draft mistakes in history, along with the Blazers skipping Jordan for Bowie (or at least that’s who I thought was involved without me looking it up). Imagine that Bears defense combined with Mahomes!

It’s not only did they trade one spot up for him, it’s how much they gave up to get him!
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Old 08-03-2019, 06:46 PM   #8
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This will go down as one of the worst draft mistakes in history, along with the Blazers skipping Jordan for Bowie (or at least that’s who I thought was involved without me looking it up). Imagine that Bears defense combined with Mahomes!

It’s not only did they trade one spot up for him, it’s how much they gave up to get him!
Nah, the worst draft mistake in history was the Bills trading away Mahomes. I'm not sure how Bill's fans sleep at night.
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Old 08-03-2019, 06:51 PM   #9
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Nah, the worst draft mistake in history was the Bills trading away Mahomes. I'm not sure how Bill's fans sleep at night.
The Bills would have ruined Mahomes just like they ruin everything else.

**** Buffalo. And **** the Bills.
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The Bills would have ruined Mahomes just like they ruin everything else.

**** Buffalo. And **** the Bills.
Impossible

He wouldn’t win MVP up there but he’d still have more success than an other Bills QB up there since 1999
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He wouldn’t win MVP up there but he’d still have more success than an other Bills QB up there since 1999
With that line, coaching and weapons? No ****ing way.
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The Bills would have ruined Mahomes just like they ruin everything else.

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Buffalo would be a contender with Mahomes. Mahomes is unable to be ruined by any bad scheme, coaches or lack of talent. Mahomes would make that coach a hall of fame coach.
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The real puzzle to me is why did Buffalo trade us their pick when they needed a QB as bad as we did?

Stupid trade for them but glad they are run by morons.
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The real puzzle to me is why did Buffalo trade us their pick when they needed a QB as bad as we did?

Stupid trade for them but glad they are run by morons.
Some NFL scouting departments believed that PMII was a raw prospect who benefitted from the Air Raid system that couldn't read defenses thus relying on his athletic gifts. thus he was rated as a 2nd to 3rd round prospect.

The articles I've read insinuated that Dorsey was on the fence drafting PMII as a 1st round pick in general.
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Some NFL scouting departments believed that PMII was a raw prospect who benefitted from the Air Raid system that couldn't read defenses thus relying on his athletic gifts. thus he was rated as a 2nd to 3rd round prospect.

The articles I've read insinuated that Dorsey was on the fence drafting PMII as a 1st round pick in general.
How do those people still have jobs? Jesus.
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