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Old 09-11-2020, 05:12 PM   Topic Starter
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Why is Robinson playing more than Hardman?
Someone help me out here. Robinson has hands of stone. He dropped 3 passes by my count last night, including one that hit him right in the face mask.

Robinson played 33 snaps while Hardman played 20.

Just doesn’t make sense to me. Hardman is so much better
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Old 09-11-2020, 05:20 PM   #2
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I was just thinking of posting this. I’d like to know. We discussed it on our game day zoom meeting.

Okay, we know he’s friends with and in the social click with Mahomes, Dieter etc. He’s big and Fast. But..... he has dropped easy balls his whole time with the Chiefs. Hardman has shown his potential and doesn’t drop the damn ball.

So why is Robinson getting Hardman snaps? Because he’s buddies with Mahomes?
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Old 09-11-2020, 05:27 PM   #3
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That has to be 5-6 dropped passes in the last 2 games against the Texans...two for TDs last night.

Luckily it hasn't come back to haunt the Chiefs...yet.

Give Kemp a look vs. the Chargers?
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Old 09-11-2020, 05:29 PM   #4
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I was just thinking of posting this. I’d like to know. We discussed it on our game day zoom meeting.

Okay, we know he’s friends with and in the social click with Mahomes, Dieter etc. He’s big and Fast. But..... he has dropped easy balls his whole time with the Chiefs. Hardman has shown his potential and doesn’t drop the damn ball.

So why is Robinson getting Hardman snaps? Because he’s buddies with Mahomes?
Lol no.
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Old 09-11-2020, 05:33 PM   #5
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Lol no.
We’re here already. After a SB win and a blowout of a playoff team.

Andy Reid is picking personnel groups based on favoritism and not the guys who give us the best chance of winning. Because he’s not all that competitive or anything.
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Old 09-11-2020, 05:39 PM   #6
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We’re here already. After a SB win and a blowout of a playoff team.

Andy Reid is picking personnel groups based on favoritism and not the guys who give us the best chance of winning. Because he’s not all that competitive or anything.
I said something earlier today when talking about Gay. These guys aren't playing favorites, they're playing 4D chess. Andy is calling plays and using personnel groups against the Texans, thinking about how it's going to impact the Ravens and beyond.

When the running game is working like it was last night, there's no reason to fret about Hardman not playing.

Besides, Robinson really only had 2 egregious drops. People can bitch all they want about that first TD but when a safety has his hand on the ball, in between the WR's hands, it's going to be incomplete 90% of the time. Even Reek drops balls in that situation.

People are awfully quick to forget some of the amazing catches Robinson made last year. In fact, he had one last night that was on his outside shoulder and he stabbed it out of the air perfectly.

The guy isn't trash.
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Old 09-11-2020, 05:49 PM   #7
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I'm sure it will all play out in the course of the season I still have high hopes to see Hardman compliment Tyreek Hill as an unstoppable duo to reckon with.


Last night was all about the running game with CEH and Mahomes didn't target Tyreek but a few times. Obviously Texans didn't want to give up the big play so Andy had the perfect game plan.
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Old 09-11-2020, 11:09 PM   #8
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I said something earlier today when talking about Gay. These guys aren't playing favorites, they're playing 4D chess. Andy is calling plays and using personnel groups against the Texans, thinking about how it's going to impact the Ravens and beyond.

When the running game is working like it was last night, there's no reason to fret about Hardman not playing.

Besides, Robinson really only had 2 egregious drops. People can bitch all they want about that first TD but when a safety has his hand on the ball, in between the WR's hands, it's going to be incomplete 90% of the time. Even Reek drops balls in that situation.

People are awfully quick to forget some of the amazing catches Robinson made last year. In fact, he had one last night that was on his outside shoulder and he stabbed it out of the air perfectly.

The guy isn't trash.
Exactly this. I think there is a reason we heard how great Clyde was looking in camp. Its mostly because the chiefs and Andy want that info out there. Why not hide how good your new running back is? Because if teams have to spend time worrying about the running game too itll open up the offense more. Its a beautiful plan and will hopefully lead to less teams playing two deep all the time.
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Lol no.
I was being a smartass. If that was true, Dieter would have been starting.
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Blocking. Robinson is a really good blocker. Hardman not so much
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Blocking. Robinson is a really good blocker. Hardman not so much
yep


Did Robinson drop 2 or 3 touchdown passes last night?
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Blocking. Robinson is a really good blocker. Hardman not so much
This. End of discussion. Chiefs ran the ball a lot.
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Nick Jacobs had a few good thoughts on Hardman vs Robinson. He mentioned how truly green of a WR Mecole is, and called out his inability to get off press coverage last year. When allowed to run free, results were good. When pressed, results varied.

He also stated the narrative should be more about what Mecole isn’t doing to get more reps in game situations.
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Nick Jacobs had a few good thoughts on Hardman vs Robinson. He mentioned how truly green of a WR Mecole is, and called out his inability to get off press coverage last year. When allowed to run free, results were good. When pressed, results varied.

He also stated the narrative should be more about what Mecole isn’t doing to get more reps in game situations.
Well that sucks.
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Nick Jacobs had a few good thoughts on Hardman vs Robinson. He mentioned how truly green of a WR Mecole is, and called out his inability to get off press coverage last year. When allowed to run free, results were good. When pressed, results varied.

He also stated the narrative should be more about what Mecole isn’t doing to get more reps in game situations.
I think there is truth to some of this, but it also needs to be recognized that Robinson is not a good receiver. He lives off of one or two splashy plays a year, and some of those came in preseason in years past. He was not courted in free agency and wound up back in a system he’s familiar with, has had years to refine, and still doesn’t do anything particularly well, except block. Hardman has had difficulty learning the entire route tree, that’s a given considering his role in college, but I think the upside for him is probably greater than what we KNOW it is for Robinson. We’ve been waiting for DRob to have his breakout year for awhile now.

And if we’re being honest, I don’t think any of our receivers are phenomenal at beating really good press coverage. Maybe Watkins and that depends on the press cover corner he’s matched up against. Press coverage is designed to screw up timing and rhythm, which is what this offense is predicated on. The reality is very few d-coordinators in the NFL have the balls to play press coverage against the speed we have.
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