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Old 12-07-2020, 08:07 AM   Topic Starter
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The announcers were talking about it last night how they hadn't scored a TD in the last 7 drives or however many it is now. I realize short yardage has always been a problem this year but it seems like Andy has been trying to get too cute. I Know they have taken out the QB sneak out of the playbook but that doesn't excuse reverse pitch jet sweeps and TE option passes being the go-to plays on 3rd and goal at the 1. Whatever happened to heavy formations with a couple extra OL as tight ends and the Sherminator in at fullback? I don't believe that the talent is so back on the OL that they can't devise a blocking scheme to get 1 yard. I hope this is Andy just ****ing around putting things on tape against a lesser opponent for others to think about but I wonder.
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Old 12-07-2020, 08:12 AM   #2
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Reid gets cute because he knows our limitations. This OL is not great at run blocking in short yardage/goal-to-go situations.
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Old 12-07-2020, 08:29 AM   #3
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Reid gets cute because he knows our limitations. This OL is not great at run blocking in short yardage/goal-to-go situations.
I got the feeling last night he was ‘experimenting’ for the future.

He knew he could get away with it , because Denver.....
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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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Old 12-07-2020, 09:12 AM   #4
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I got the feeling last night he was ‘experimenting’ for the future.

He knew he could get away with it , because Denver.....
And damn near didnt
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Old 12-07-2020, 09:39 AM   #5
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And damn near didnt
Eh. Never did I feel like we wouldn’t win that game last night.
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Eh. Never did I feel like we wouldn’t win that game last night.

Agreed.

A close game doesn’t always mean the other team “damn near” beat us.

Like, even when they were ahead, was Denver ever above a 50% chance to win at any point during the game?
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Reid gets cute because he knows our limitations. This OL is not great at run blocking in short yardage/goal-to-go situations.

Do we actually know they suck, though?

It’s been several weeks since we actually asked them to line up and plow forward in short yardage running situations
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Do we actually know they suck, though?

It’s been several weeks since we actually asked them to line up and plow forward in short yardage running situations
That in itself kinda tells me all I need to know
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Old 12-07-2020, 12:25 PM   #9
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Do we actually know they suck, though?

It’s been several weeks since we actually asked them to line up and plow forward in short yardage running situations

Well they didn’t look very good last night, that’s for sure. I’ll trust that Reid has a good idea of their capabilities and calls his plays accordingly.

There have been tons of sweeps/misdirection plays we’ve scored on by going sideways in the red zone this season. When it works, Reid’s a genius. When it doesn’t, he’s getting too cute. Shit never fails.
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The interior ol sucks

We’re playing with 4 backup level OL right now. It is what it is
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Interior OLine is an issue, as it was throughout the season last year. Time to get Wylie out of there and get Wiz back in
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Very concerning.

We have an o-line and running backs who cannot get 3 yards against a stacked box.

Ergo, Wally has to try and attack the edges.

The question at hand is this: Can Mahomes throw a short fade to the corner? Or not?

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Very concerning.

We have an o-line and running backs who cannot get 3 yards against a stacked box.

Ergo, Wally has to try and attack the edges.

The question at hand is this: Can Mahomes throw a short fade to the corner? Or not?

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Fades are not great plays. NFL teams run fades way more than they should, which is probably not at all.
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Old 12-07-2020, 08:45 AM   #14
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Fades are not great plays. NFL teams run fades way more than they should, which is probably not at all.
Allow me to do you the honor of disagreeing with your opinion, Mr. htismaqe.

We are trying every play in the book to avoid running between the tackles in the redzone.

We are even trying plays that aren't in any book ... All in an effort to compensate for our inability to run against a goal-line defense.

Short fades can draw DPI penalties. It's a proven fact. (See; Faiders.)

I, for one, would be willing to consider a short fade against a rookie corner than the QB-in-motion-double-reverse-underhand-pass-to-the-Z-receiver which had never scored a touchdown in the history of the world.

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Fades are not great plays. NFL teams run fades way more than they should, which is probably not at all.
I totally agree. If you're half a yard from scoring, throwing a moonball up to a covered receiver just seems like the 40th best idea. On our drive, once Bell got a foot from scoring on 1st down, we should have either pounded it again or faked the run and passed it. We got too cute.
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